Evasion is a bunch of mess

[Shambler]

Alright lets first attempt to get max evasion in game (This assumes all numbers are additive, and that they pertain to actual percentages)
Zilbow-5
HLdagger-8
[Insert Bodysuit with 5 evasion]- 5
lightjetpack-10

Now with smuggler you get a 20% evasion boost with a extra skill that gives either a extra 10% evasion, or 50% item bonus.

So seeing that we get
20 + ((5+5+8+10)*1.5)
20 + (28*1.5)
62 Dodge if the numbers are additive

Now how the hell do stealth field generator and cloak and dagger work? They are either
A. Hardcoded (possible as I traced the dodge values back to a defenseUp value
B. hidden to avoid skimmers like me.

I would frankly like to know how they work to see if I can get 100% dodge, so Fen can nerf this build so I could spite @Alabaster Chimes the lead knowledge on smugglers.
EDIT: This last part was sarcasm, no harm meant.
As a side buff Smuggler's can opener, its sunder chance is far to low to be useful.

 

[Milkman]

Why the hell do you need smuggler to be nerfed so badly? This is a single player game. It's not like if there's any PvP competitive balance that needs to be maintained. If someone wants to min max towards a max evasion build why not let em?

Personally I always play tech specialist. Even before the addition of the last two level ups when techs were significantly weaker than Smugglers and Mercs, I've never begrudged them their fancy toys/ felt a need to nerf em down to the same level as techs. If you don't want to play a max evasion build then don't. But there's no need to spite folks who enjoy the build.

 

[Woider]

Because min/maxing in a smut game is srs bsns.

 

[Woider]

If difficulty and class balance are centered around number nuts and hardcore RPG gurus, you're going to cut out the 99% of people that just play this game to get off. Because they don't care at all. Like at all.

Pretty much this. Couldn't give a shit about the combat, really.

 

[Aullama]

Max evasion Smuggler is pretty much the only thing Smugglers can do to even remotely compete with how laughably OP Mercs are. I haven't fiddled with the new Tech stuff but I've heard they're better-ish now and have absurd levels of shield HP, so maybe they're on par with Smugglers at this point.

Unless the 9-10 perks have drastically changed something I'm not aware of, Merc is still the go-to "power class" if you want to facestomp anything and everything, so if anything needs to be nerfed if should be them.

However, I'm not a fan of nerfing anything in this sex-first smut game. I feel like everything except the optional hardcore challenge bosses like Lash and Co. should be reasonably simple and straightforward to beat for any class and any build. Cuz it's a smut game. I'm not saying combat should be brain-dead easy by default, but for people willing to min/max and employ powergaming strats to the TBC system of a text-based porn game, it should probably reach that point fairly quickly.

If difficulty and class balance are centered around number nuts and hardcore RPG gurus, you're going to cut out the 99% of people that just play this game to get off. Because they don't care at all. Like at all.

While I'll disagree on mercs being the OP class (since I feel it's techs now) I'll agree with everything else. This is a smut game. You might as well fuss over the 'meta' of the first two gyms in a pokemon game.

 

[Alabaster Chimes]

I would frankly like to know how they work to see if I can get 100% dodge, so Fen can nerf this build so I could spite @Alabaster Chimes the lead knowledge on smugglers.

Dude. Are you serious? To spite me?

Ok.

So One: Are you trying to make Merc the only viable class? Just because its better in your eyes?

Two: As much as I was talking about the combat with you on the discord, you keep forgetting; That. This. Is. A. Porn game, meant to get peoples rockers off. Combat is not the focus of the game.

Three: No seriously, its a game not focused on the combat. It focused on getting you off (with the addition of some good stories). Its singleplayer too, which with that alone shuts you down.

I understand your the min/max guy. But this is a new level of shittery. I hope there are more reasons for saying this stuff, other than to spite me. But even then your reasons are probably gonna be much worse. I thought we had a nice conversation on the discord about the classes. If this is how it turned out, I wish I never took part in it.

 

[Shambler]

Dude. Are you serious? To spite me?

Ok.

So One: Are you trying to make Merc the only viable class? Just because its better in your eyes?

Two: As much as I was talking about the combat with you on the discord, you keep forgetting; That. This. Is. A. Porn game, meant to get peoples rockers off. Combat is not the focus of the game.

Three: No seriously, its a game not focused on the combat. It focused on getting you off (with the addition of some good stories). Its singleplayer too, which with that alone shuts you down.

I understand your the min/max guy. But this is a new level of shittery. I hope there are more reasons for saying this stuff, other than to spite me. But even then your reasons are probably gonna be much worse. I thought we had a nice conversation on the discord about the classes. If this is how it turned out, I wish I never took part in it.

It was a joke, not a particularly well thought out one (an issue I seem to have) and it referenced our previous conversation.
The spite portion was also merely to get your thoughts in on this conversation, seeing how you'd react to this.
Poorly due to my subpar wording was not the result I expected.
I did something out of line; I meant no harm in this situation and should've made my sarcasm more clear.
I am sorry.
Quite frankly you were one of the few people who actually were with me on my talks of min/maxing so I'd hate to hurt that in a one-off line.

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

The old saying comes to mind when I read the responses in this thread. "Some things are better left not being said at all."

 

[Shambler]

The old saying comes to mind when I read the responses in this thread. "Some things are better left not being said at all."

Ironic that you say that, eh?

Wait shit did I just do a hypocracy? Damn.