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Mightykitten

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The only problem i have is the UI - reason why i like TiTS because of the UI is easy to use and doesn't confuse the player
 

TheDarkMaster

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Switching away from a server system is probably the easiest long term solution, since you eliminate the overhead of running a server.
 

logan.scodini

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Not dead yet, but close. I can't keep affording paying the server costs out of my pocket, so it may remain down until I find a solution. To be honest, the donations haven't worked as I expected compared with other games. I'll try out adds and if that doesn't add up the costs and my time I'll probably abandon the project.

Not to be an asshole, but how much is too much? I'm running around 12gb of data per day for my games, and it costs me around 10$/month (mix of amazon and godaddy).
 
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IvoryOwl

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Not to be an asshole, but how much is too much? I'm running around 12gb of data per day for my games, and it costs me around 10$/month (mix of amazon and godaddy).

Honestly he doesn't even -need- the server. The very first reply to this thread was mine and I did point out there are free alternatives he can use that doesn't incur costs from his end. I did warn that relying on other people's donations in order to sustain the project was shaky business. The problem is he built and programmed this game to be hosted on a server and to change that now would require re-doing everything from scratch to the kind of executable game we can just download and play on our end. I know its a pain in the a$$ but it IS the best option right now if he wants to keep the project alive.

And 10$ dollar a month can be a bit of a stretch for some people - at the end of the year its 120$ we just kissed goodbye. For a student or even an unemployed person every penny counts.
 
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ThatOneJester

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Honestly he doesn't even -need- the server. The very first reply to this thread was mine and I did point out there are free alternatives he can use that doesn't incur costs from his end. I did warn that relying on other people's donations in order to sustain the project was shaky business. The problem is he built and programmed this game to be hosted on a server and to change that now would require re-doing everything from scratch to the kind of executable game we can just download and play on our end. I know its a pain in the a$$ but it IS the best option right now if he wants to keep the project alive.

I hope he does make it downloadable.


Better to start the reset of coding now, rather than later.


Even through the work, this game is kinda fun even at it's current stage.


It looks like it can be amazingly fun, at the end of its development.


But it all depends on his choice on how he hosts the game.
 
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Xannn

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Hey there, I'm new in this site. I saw the discussion and wanted to throw my fifty cents at it :) .


As an starter python web programmer myself, and thinking that you are using apache as webserver, the most reliable way to let people keep playing the game would be to bundle the game into a xamp/wamp/lamp bundle and, if don't want to bother people setting MySQL/MariaDB services, switch to SQLite if that's feasible, which depends if you used a framework like django or how modular you did the database intercomunication.


From what I heard about the game it sounds promising, but I heard of it when the server was already out of service and, seeing the lack of screenshots about the game, that's as far as I can go to check it, so I look foward to see how to game looks and play. I hope for the best, good luck.
 

sonictheag

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What browser do you play this game on because every time i click one the links here and on the patron site i get site cant be reached. the only one that works is the roadmap
 
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IvoryOwl

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What browser do you play this game on because every time i click one the links here and on the patron site i get site cant be reached. the only one that works is the roadmap

The author couldn't afford hosting the game on a server anymore due to the lack of sufficient funds/donations, so its down... probably for good. He has been quiet since his last reply.
 
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Mario

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It is kind of sad. I liked the game so far and saw great potential in it. Maybe the author is looking for differnt ways to continue the project. I am not very hopeful though, mostly because of his statements here.
 

ThatOneJester

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I don't want to to kill the game, I've spent quite some time developing it and honestly it was being received way better than I expected. But looking for alternatives take a time that right now I can't afford, and I can't afford to keep paying the server either, so for the time being it's down.


I have to say that I was having a good donation/visitor ratio when I was promoting the game in dedicated forums like this one. Then I created a couple of posts of Reddit that brought literally thousands of players, which increased the server costs quite a lot. None of those donated one dollar. Not a single one.


I already have some ideas to bring it back up, including some of the ones you guys gave me, but I can't make promesses or set dates right now.

I wish you the best of luck.


One step at a time, remember that the journey of a thousand steps starts with the first.
 

TheDarkMaster

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The game is back online! I've found that Google offers a free hosting trial so i decided to use my Saturday to do the migration. This is not a permanent solution, but will buy me time to try alternatives. The first step is most likely finding an add provider, and check how well that works.

Over 60% of users use some form of ad block, advertising is not likely to help you out here.
 

IvoryOwl

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Sep 1, 2015
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Over 60% of users use some form of ad block, advertising is not likely to help you out here.

It may not be a long-term solution due to the lack of popularity but if 1000 people visit his game every month, the other 30%-40% that don't use ad-block (300-400 views) can still count for something... Whatever the case may be its better than waiting for "potential" donations.
 
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sexychipmonk

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https://gyazo.com/ab53db4dfcb05bafef91b514408a39c4

This came up when there was only one Male mutant lizard
 

MotoKuchoma

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Over 60% of users use some form of ad block, advertising is not likely to help you out here.

Also, making NSFW games means having much less options and getting less revenue from ads (there is a reason free porn sites are typically flooded with intrusive ads) so that's also an issue.


If Traffic costs are a problem due to high demand, you could make a closed beta with invite only access or you add a mandatory subscription fee via e.g. Patreon. A lot of people won't like that because porn consumers want everything for free but it is imo a sensibile approach.
 

Miscellaneous Forum Viewer

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After being quite discouraged by the server costs and the little revenue (and intrusiveness) of the add solutions I tries the game went down a few weeks ago.

Finally I have managed to find a solution to make the game run without requiring a webserver, or more properly, a centralized one. The solution combines Flask for Python and the module py2exe to compile all the game data into a .exe file.

The most clear drawback is that now the game is only available for PC's running Windows, while before it allowed pretty much any platform with Internet access. The advantages are that it can be now played online and of course that now I don't have to pay any server costs (or any costs whatsoever, except for the domain that I'm still keeping for now), which has allowed me to remove all advertisement except a few links to my Patreon page. This definitely guarantees the survival of the game.

The download link and some simple installation instructions can be found at ethosofdarkness.com.
Good thing ya didn't die. I'm still looking forward to your game if you intend to complete it. What are your plans moving forward?
 

mrttao

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After being quite discouraged by the server costs and the little revenue (and intrusiveness) of the add solutions I tries the game went down a few weeks ago.

Finally I have managed to find a solution to make the game run without requiring a webserver, or more properly, a centralized one. The solution combines Flask for Python and the module py2exe to compile all the game data into a .exe file.

The most clear drawback is that now the game is only available for PC's running Windows, while before it allowed pretty much any platform with Internet access. The advantages are that it can be now played online and of course that now I don't have to pay any server costs (or any costs whatsoever, except for the domain that I'm still keeping for now), which has allowed me to remove all advertisement except a few links to my Patreon page. This definitely guarantees the survival of the game.

The download link and some simple installation instructions can be found at ethosofdarkness.com.
I am glad to hear this. Any game that requires a centralized server is doomed to die eventually. Whether fanbased or commercial product (I lost count of how many commercial games with centralized servers shut down)
 

Miscellaneous Forum Viewer

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Much of my concerns with the game remain since the last time I played, but also the town doesn't work in v1.1.0, for me at least.

Do you ever intend to implement player victory sex scenes or Dominant perk options? I like these styles of games, although only having access to Sub content doesn't do it for me. Only having scenes where the mobs manhandle my character despite the fact he can literally beat all 3-5 of them to death with his hands saps my interest in it dramatically. I mean, at the very least if I successfully seduce'em it should be a bit more of a mutual encounter.

Edit: Sounds a bit more like complaining than I intended, but I assure you it's merely because I like the potential and am curious as to if there'll be anything I can enjoy in it.
 

Darkfirephoenix

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Oct 19, 2015
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Much of my concerns with the game remain since the last time I played, but also the town doesn't work in v1.1.0, for me at least.

Do you ever intend to implement player victory sex scenes or Dominant perk options? I like these styles of games, although only having access to Sub content doesn't do it for me. Only having scenes where the mobs manhandle my character despite the fact he can literally beat all 3-5 of them to death with his hands saps my interest in it dramatically. I mean, at the very least if I successfully seduce'em it should be a bit more of a mutual encounter.

Edit: Sounds a bit more like complaining than I intended, but I assure you it's merely because I like the potential and am curious as to if there'll be anything I can enjoy in it.
+1 from me. I think it's a bad thing if there is only "sub" sexual content for the PC.
ESPECIALLY if the PC wins a fight/is strong enough to wipe the ground with the enemies three times over they should be able to do with the enemies what they want.
I like me some PC dom content in case you missed it. ;)
 

Pazz

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May 27, 2016
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I've played your game and I like playing as a submissive male, without crossdressing, male to female transformation or similar things.
Having said that, there are some...annoyances that take away the fun out of this game.

-Too many guys
I'm not gay. I've looked at the "gamedata.xml" file and saw that the chance of encountering male opponents, is much higher then encountering female or futa opponents. You can edit this file so that no male enemies appear though.
But the last guard encounter is about guys, so I couldn't get into that.

-It would be nice if I can select those perks without leveling up. Because now I have to defeat many enemies with a piece of wood, in order to make my character more submissive? Which doesn't make sense.
-What's the difference between a dickgirl and a hermaphrodite in your game? Also, the herma enemies don't do anything in sex scenes. Maybe they only work on female characters?
-There are more positions unlocked when you persuade the enemies. When they defeat you in combat, the positions in sex scenes are always the same. Making those encounters pretty boring.
I wonder what scenes and positions are available in the game right now.

-The enemy throws you on the ground very quickly in a sex scene, and then you will stay in that position until they are done. A bit more variety would be nice here.
-The map is one big empty space with an extremely small town in it. I know you will probably add more content to it, but now it's barely worth the time to explore.

So I like what's in the game thus far, but it's a bit difficult to enjoy.
 

mrttao

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-What's the difference between a dickgirl and a hermaphrodite in your game? Also, the herma enemies don't do anything in sex scenes. Maybe they only work on female characters?
Well, I am not the author but:
A dickgirl is a term from IRL LBGT community that means a male to female transexual who has undergone hormone therapy but not surgery. as a result they look like a girl, have tits and feminine features. but a dick and no pussy.
Hermaphrodite is a term based on greek mythology which means a being with both sexes at the same time. Meaning a dick AND a vagina.
 

lightningshifter

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Aug 27, 2015
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Version 1.2 released!

Well, this update has been long and painful to release but was definitely needed. Difficult to define it content-wise, since I've changed the whole file, event and scene structure. The sex sequence is completely different, as well as most text and descriptions, perks and many other dynamics.

The main goal of this update was not adding or replacing content though, but replacing the buggy and rigid XML tree system that supported the game. I have not abandoned completely XML, but the gameplay elements no longer hang directly from a XML structure, which made updating and growing the game structure slow and clumsy.

There's still a lot to polish and expand, but at least now I have a powerful base to support it.

The new version can as usual be found at ethosofdarkness.com.

I was playing the latest release for a bit and noticed some glaring issues. One, when you level up you get an error message on the page. I had to click back on my firefox browser to bring the game back to the previous page. THen I hit back again to get back to the game. It seems to apply the levelup stat changes this way but it seems a bit buggy. 2 I could only open the perks page before I leveled up. Once I leveled I could no longer open the page without it giving me the error message which said the game server was either overloaded or there was some sort of error. I also noted this same error popped up repeatedly doing random things in between. It never really prevented progression though as long as you hit back and then resumed as you were.
 

lightningshifter

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Aug 27, 2015
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Thanks for detecting that. It was a problem with the display of the perks window (which also shows after leveling). I have been able to reproduce it and have uploaded a new file with the fix.

Regarding the random errors showing up, I'm guessing those are caused by something else, but I'll have to get them myself to find the reason and fix it.

Unfortunately because the same error window popped up in every case I couldn't really give you more insight as to what is causing it. It did it to me once or twice while I was trying to use the shop too. I had to go back completely. It wouldn't let me leave the store at first. I was actually in and out of the store a few times prior to that. It just did it after I finally saved up enough for the spear and bought it. I also equipped the spear while I was in the store. At first I was frustrated because the exit store button kept giving me that same error page as it did with the levelups. But then after trying different options it finally allowed me to exit the store as normal. I also had a couple times where the sex scenes likewise had this error pop up when certain options were chosen. I want to stress that I had used these very same options many, many times before the sudden errors. This implies that something else happened during that particular fight and post battle defeat sex. It is not something that I could even replicate on demand.

Now, the gameplay seems to be very reminiscent of the old adnd games. That is to say that it is nostalgic and I like it. I wouldn't mind a bit of mutagenic elements added to the game. Namely things that can change your character. Also, I was reading your earlier notes but it looks like 1.2 lacks the gun doesn't it? I have completely explored the map you can explore and I can't find anything besides the base camp or the town. I will point out that the game seems to be confused about the base camp location when you leave the town though. If you go one tile east it thinks you're at basecamp again. I had another random error when trying to navigate but it didn't replicate when I hit back in the browser and moved a room to the west before moving two to the east again.

I had the shop error again. It hits suddenly and randomly sometimes after you equip new gear while in the shop. When it happens you get that same error page after choosing any of the normal options. Just go into menu and click save to save your game though and when you go back it should be fine again.
 
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lightningshifter

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I think I just detected the problem with the shop/gear. What happened is that when you equipped a different item, it didn't update the status correctly and led to errors. I've uploaded a new file to fix the bug within this new version, since the next one will be Patron-only for a while and I'd rather have this one also bug-free. I've also added a few features that I was finishing for the next one.

I still have not implemented any gun, so I've hidden the options mentioning it until I actually add some guns in-game.

I'm very in favor of letting the player change its character through gameplay: getting fatter/weeker/stronger/pregnant in-game, style changes, eventually sex modifications, but I also want to make these changes more relevant. Need to polish the sex-scenes so the players and actions are better and not as repetitively described.

Overall I think I got myself to a point where I was just staged for a long grind to get strong enough to at least survive even the worst encounters that I saw pop up there. I was at the point where I could take 2 raiders, 6 lizards, or I think 3 or 4 dogs without losing. I would have needed a couple more levels probably to boost either my attack or my hp up high enough to survive 3 raiders though.
 
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Believe I've found some kind of bug. After losing or just during the seduced scenes, sometimes I get to a point where one or several 'actors' just wait and dont do anything. Aside from flipping you around or touching themselves, they dont initiate anything. I've tried just clicking the available options of being passive and resisting, not being pushed etc. to see if they were just taking longer to proc initiating any actions but after about 100 times waiting and nothing happening I just use the end scene button. It doesn't happen too often but just thought I'd let you know about it :), if you were already aware of this then my apologies and keep up the good work!
 

TheSgt

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The ethosofdarkness.com site seems to be down, and I don't know of any other way to check out the game.
 

DivinityX

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Not sure if it's just me running into the bug but whenever I open the .exe, it'll open up the browser tab with 127.0.0.3:14928 and then let me know that the site can't be reached and it refuse to connect. Any way to fix this problem?
 

Merilirem

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Oct 17, 2016
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Maybe switch to drop down lists that fall under said category/target and then have the description show in a box under it when selected and have a confirmation button to perform the selected action?

It would be less "game like" in a way but if you want alot of options cleanly separated in such a small space i don't think there are that many other options.

Perhaps you could keep the buttons to choose the target but put the choices in drop down lists below them.

On the other hand you could also change the buttons so that a right click gave the info on what is actually meant.

Basically you would have "targeted" "general" which when clicked open the full array of what you can do and then have left click do the thing while right examines the option. You could also have the targeted skills come from the target button so that clicking target 4 would show options for dealing with target 4.

I'm not sure how this would feel with a keyboard only but for a mouse it should work ok. If this is what you meant. Just a thought.
 

unknown5

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Not sure if it's just me running into the bug but whenever I open the .exe, it'll open up the browser tab with 127.0.0.3:14928 and then let me know that the site can't be reached and it refuse to connect. Any way to fix this problem?

I have been having the exact same problem with it. Sadly no idea how to fix it though.
 

Vyssia

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Aug 18, 2016
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I have been having the exact same problem with it. Sadly no idea how to fix it though.

Clicking on Try again got me to the main menu. However I then get a 500 internal server error trying to create a character.

Dislikes Firefox?

Edit: Turns out it was Noscript. Didn't notice at first that Noscript had blocked anything.
 
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