Does Guldring apply multiple times to effects that damage multiple times.

arch99

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Title. Like Blue-Flame Blade. Also, is there any way to get a spell like that without being a Kitsune? I'm trying to figure out if it'd be fun to be a DPS-y leadership build spellblade, but I can't find anything but Blue-Flame Blade that'd work. Guldring having a good interaction with it would help a lot though.
 

WolframL

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I don't think it would apply to Blue Flame Blade when using a regular attack while it's active since those shouldn't count as spells for triggering purposes (it adds bonus damage and scales off Spellpower but it's not doing damage directly) but it would apply to something like the activation damage of Charge Weapon, or stack with the recently-added Flamebrand. Haven't tested it though.
 

arch99

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I don't think it would apply to Blue Flame Blade when using a regular attack while it's active since those shouldn't count as spells for triggering purposes (it adds bonus damage and scales off Spellpower but it's not doing damage directly) but it would apply to something like the activation damage of Charge Weapon, or stack with the recently-added Flamebrand. Haven't tested it though.
Did a quick test - 66 damage with a flamebrand against a wolf with guldring equipped, 61 without. Given that I have 20 presence, wolves have no fire resistance or vulnerability, and guldring gives both spell pen and spell damage, it seems to me that guldring does not apply to flamebrand, from what I can tell. Exact stats (with Guldring equipped) below if anyone wants to try and math it out. 1666395905655.png
 

Ireyon

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You might want to test with a skill like magic missile. The damage is slightly randomized as far as I'm aware (at least I think so?).

In theory Guldring should boost the damage of everything with the spell tag that directly damages your opponent.
 

arch99

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You might want to test with a skill like magic missile. The damage is slightly randomized as far as I'm aware (at least I think so?).

In theory Guldring should boost the damage of everything with the spell tag that directly damages your opponent.
I did a few tests, it did 66 3 times in a row with Guldring and 61 twice in a row without. So if it is semi-randomized, I got some astonishing RNG.
 

Ireyon

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I did a few tests, it did 66 3 times in a row with Guldring and 61 twice in a row without. So if it is semi-randomized, I got some astonishing RNG.
Hm. Strange. I could've sworn I've read that somewhere on here. Never mind then. In any case, you should test an ability that does multiple hits and as far as spells go only magic missile comes to mind (which you need to steal to get so yea).