discussion about the balance of the brothel's pay out

[svnhddbst]

i have now verified through testing, not with a stopwatch, that the average person will get something like 1.8 the pay per input and time grinding the southern areas of tarkus (not even myrellion), which only requires that you be ready for combat, as compared to the brothel which requires that you grind stats that may be completely different to what you would use for the rest of the game, and potentially buy new equipment to meet a stat requirement.


but ignoring any arbitrary stat or equipment stuff;


you get 200-300 credits every 9 or so inputs (rest, next, rest, next, desk, work, rooms, next, next), which takes something like 6 seconds of input after you get used to {loop} t 1 t 1 1 q 1 4 1 1 {/loop}


compared to


spam a d a d a d, until a battle starts (averages 2 seconds), then spam 111111 for melee, or 212121212 for ranged (averages 1 seconds), all of which totals to something like 3 seconds.


238 credits (for my character) /6 seconds = 39.7 credits per second or 238 credits / 9 inputs= 26.4 credits per input


vs


~280 credits (including rounds of nothing); 280/ 3 = 94.3 credits per second, or 280 credits/ ~9 inputs (easier to spam) = 31.1 credits per input


there's also comparisons that could be made for variety of text, or that the brothel gives something specialized for tease specialists, which i just don't want to take the time to properly analyze. i would just like to see a bit higher reward for the brothel, so that you don't have to be a specialist to get a comparable reward to the 3rd of possibly 5+ combat planets that will have steadily increasing drop payouts, and that combat inherently has xp rewards, and possibly equipment rewards.


also note; myrellion has the jewel/jewel bag drops that sell for thousands which destroys the brothel payout.


edit: took around 12 minutes to get 13k credits grinding tarkus, took around 20 minutes to get 13k credits in brother, suggesting my earlier math was off, and grinding tarkus results in 18.06 credits per second, and brothel results in 10.83 credits per second.

 

[Nonesuch]

Tl,dr non-psycho mathematician version: Raise the base pay-out for everything by about 120 creds, Jacques/Geddy.

 

[svnhddbst]

what that guy said

 

[BlahBlahBlah]

Calculate how much you get with brother maxed out.  Than make that equal to what you get, say on Myrellion farming.


And maybe understand that it's not meant to be cost competitive in terms of income/second.

 

[svnhddbst]

Calculate how much you get with brother maxed out.  Than make that equal to what you get, say on Myrellion farming.


And maybe understand that it's not meant to be cost competitive in terms of income/second.

current max pay in brothel is ~470


and i don't understand why you would put anything into a game, and make it be bad in comparison to other things in the game. it would just make it sit there unused except for niche uses. there's no benefit to making it not competitive.

 

[NotYouNorI]

current max pay in brothel is ~470


and i don't understand why you would put anything into a game, and make it be bad in comparison to other things in the game. it would just make it sit there unused except for niche uses. there's no benefit to making it not competitive.

Because the scenes are hot? It's a porn game for fuck sake. Besides, it's meant for low-level characters.

 

[BlueRaven]

The sheer stupidity of this thread hurts my brain.

 

[Jacques00]

Okay, I added a completely random buff to the earnings for Beth's whoring event in the pull request (#574).


This will not guarantee that the player character will earn more at all. It is just a random bonus that will have a 1/2 chance to spit out between 0 to 40 extra credits and will cycle about 5 times--meaning the result may be between 0 to 200 more credits and will apply to the base earnings. This will simulate environment randomness.


I also added a tiny proficiency bonus, which adds 2 credits for each time whoring. This will simulate a tiny bit of whoring "experience". All these add-on earnings apply before the percentage cut by the payout with the mistress so they may not be very noticeable.


I don't want to increase the actual base earnings because I would rather the player earn that level of "whoring expertise" and/or through the faction system--all of which have yet to be implemented, written, or planned; but it the event itself is open for expansion if need be. Remember that this is a whoring event intended for starter characters. The payout shouldn't be very much at all.

 

[Nonesuch]

Okay, I added a completely random buff to the earnings for Beth's whoring event in the pull request (#574).


This will not guarantee that the player character will earn more at all. It is just a random bonus that will have a 1/2 chance to spit out between 0 to 40 extra credits and will cycle about 5 times--meaning the result may be between 0 to 200 more credits and will apply to the base earnings. This will simulate environment randomness.


I also added a tiny proficiency bonus, which adds 2 credits for each time whoring. This will simulate a tiny bit of whoring "experience". All these add-on earnings apply before the percentage cut by the payout with the mistress so they may not be very noticeable.


I don't want to increase the actual base earnings because I would rather the player earn that level of "whoring expertise" and/or through the faction system--all of which have yet to be implemented, written, or planned; but it the event itself is open for expansion if need be. Remember that this is a whoring event intended for starter characters. The payout shouldn't be very much at all.

You put way more thought and effort into that than you needed to. Thank you.

 

[Krynh]

You put way more thought and effort than you needed to. Thank you.

That's why he's the best