Deep freeze status only on one gun?

4rm4ld0

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On the wiki it's only listed on the FZR Fire Suppression, but there is plenty of other freezing weapons that should have it based on their description. Like the Cryrolizer:
A cryrolizer is an advanced piece of technology, designed for unconventional warfare. It fires an energy beam capable of quickly dissipating all heat from the target, potentially causing fatal hypothermia and even freezing it solid.

Did the effect is missing or I've been just unlucky so far?
 

TheShepard256

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The FZR is essentially a high-powered fire extinguisher, so it sprays its chemicals across most of the surface of the target; meanwhile, the majority of other weapons only have a relatively small impact area. Maybe the FZR is the only weapon that can inflict Deep Freeze because of this coverage, and every other weapon can't because of thermodynamics; even if the weapon flash-freezes the impact area, it'd still take time to drain the heat out of the rest of the target's body, and that time is long enough that Deep Freeze doesn't really apply.
 

4rm4ld0

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I can see your point TheShepard256 and it would make sense for only the FZR to have this effect. However the Cryrolizer also must have a fairly broad impact area, at least that is what the description suggest to me. It says it can cause fatal hypothermia from the heating dissipation, in my understating it would only be able to do so if it dissipate heat from the whole body, so the impact area must be person sized at least. If that was not the intention I agree with Malidica that gun description is ambiguous, specially because it also add at the end it can frozen the target solid further adding to the idea it hit a large area
 

TheShepard256

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However the Cryrolizer also must have a fairly broad impact area, at least that is what the description suggest to me.
It does say "It fires an energy beam", and I take 'beam' to mean that it's thin relative to its effective range, much like a laser beam. Maybe it can only freeze smaller targets, and the fatal hypothermia requires repeated/continuous fire (I didn't say it couldn't drain all the heat from the rest of the target's body, just that it'd take time to do so).
 

TheShepard256

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A beam can be any thickness, just means the 'stuff' is all lined up parallel.
But in order to make everything parallel, the aperture must be at least as wide as the beam itself, so a pistol-sized beam weapon can't produce a beam wider than the pistol itself.

I was also assuming that thicker beams typically have longer ranges than thinner ones, but now that I think about it, I don't think that's necessarily true.
 

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I think the Blizzard Cryrothrower should definitely get the Deep Freeze status. It was designed to cool starship reactors, ferchrissake.
 
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Paradox01

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I was also assuming that thicker beams typically have longer ranges than thinner ones, but now that I think about it, I don't think that's necessarily true.
Depends on what type of energy is being produced and a bunch of other sciency stuff like atmospheric attenuation.