Debimbofication?

KeplerZeroFive

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Is there anything in the pipeline with regards to PC debimbifocation? While I like the physical changes from events and items such as Dr. Badger's machine or the Treatment, I'm always put off by the mental changes, particularly with perks like Ditz/Brute Speech and Weak Mind. Are there any plans to add ways to remove them from your character? It seems like something that would be up Dr. Lash's alley, at least.
 

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Unlikely as the majority of bimbo paths are trade-off for other beneficial perks. I think your real question should be "how do I gain all the benefits of the treatment/dumbfuck/cuntnosis, but without all the drawbacks?".
 

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While I like the physical changes from events and items such as Dr. Badger's machine or the Treatment
if you want the aesthetic u can use items like the regular cow tf and liptease
 

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Unlikely as the majority of bimbo paths are trade-off for other beneficial perks. I think your real question should be "how do I gain all the benefits of the treatment/dumbfuck/cuntnosis, but without all the drawbacks?".

Isn't one of the design principles of this game that no TFs should be "mandatory" by being just better than other things? Seems to me that locking mechanically good stuff (like increased max lust or pheromones) behind bimbo-themed TFs is against that design principle.

I wish there was a way to get some of those perks without having to get Dumbfuck or the Treatment... Especially that pheromone thing the treatment gives males.
 

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Isn't one of the design principles of this game that no TFs should be "mandatory" by being just better than other things? Seems to me that locking mechanically good stuff (like increased max lust or pheromones) behind bimbo-themed TFs is against that design principle.

I wish there was a way to get some of those perks without having to get Dumbfuck or the Treatment... Especially that pheromone thing the treatment gives males.
There are other Pheromone perks: Alpha Scent (+4), Musky Pheromones (+5) and Jungle Queen Scent (+4). These all stack and are not removed by TFing to something else.
Because Jungle Queen Scent is from Amazonia, it's not actually mutually exclusive with Pheromone Cloud.

Most sources of Inhuman Desire (maximum Lust increase) come with a drawback. The really strange design decision is Dumb4Cum.
 

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While I want debimbofication to be a thing since I'm not really into bimbos (especially if it's to the point that it's their only major character-defining trait), I also kind of don't want it because of what it would mean in-universe. The thing that makes bimbofication such a big deal (aside from its mental changes) is that it's irreversible; that's a big part of why the Treatment is so controversial. It's also likely a cornerstone of Doctor Badger's plans.

Additionally, any research into debimbofication would require the researchers to deliberately bimbofy test subjects in order to figure out the mechanisms behind bimbofication, which would be the first step to developing some way to counteract those mechanisms. Then they'd actually have to test whatever debimbofication treatments they come up with, which have the potential for horrific side-effects. I don't see either of these steps passing any ethics committee, so the only researchers who would be capable of doing these would be those who operate outside ethics and the law, like Doctor Lash. But if they're interested in debimbofication for similar reasons to Lash, they'd also not be the kind of people who'd bimbofy people in the first place.

Either way, debimbofication is not something that seems like it would arise in TiTS without a lot of difficulty, and even if it did arise, the unethical manner required for that would mean it probably won't gain any widespread legitimate usage.
 

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Either way, debimbofication is not something that seems like it would arise in TiTS without a lot of difficulty, and even if it did arise, the unethical manner required for that would mean it probably won't gain any widespread legitimate usage.
TiTS is a Megacorp Dystopia, remember? Ethics aren't really a concern. The real question is 'Would it be profitable?'
 

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Isn't one of the design principles of this game that no TFs should be "mandatory" by being just better than other things? Seems to me that locking mechanically good stuff (like increased max lust or pheromones) behind bimbo-themed TFs is against that design principle.

I wish there was a way to get some of those perks without having to get Dumbfuck or the Treatment... Especially that pheromone thing the treatment gives males.
There is no perk except for dumb4cum that cannot be duplicated by another perk or item. You can even savescum some of the beneficial perks of Dumbfuck from the Doll Maker (Breed hungry, +15 lust from inhuman desire).
 

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There is no perk except for dumb4cum that cannot be duplicated by another perk or item. You can even savescum some of the beneficial perks of Dumbfuck from the Doll Maker (Breed hungry, +15 lust from inhuman desire).
Innocent Allure? +5 Sexiness and Stagger when Teasing.
 

TheShepard256

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TiTS is a Megacorp Dystopia, remember? Ethics aren't really a concern. The real question is 'Would it be profitable?'
Assuming most bimbos don't want to get debimbofied*, there'd be almost no demand, so I'd guess 'not profitable'.
*This seems like a reasonable assumption to me; low-functioning bimbos really care only about sex and debimbofication would get in the way of that, while high-functioning bimbos don't let their bimbo nature get in the way of other things to the extent that debimbofication would be desirable.
 
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You know, with all the options available now to PCs you could totally make a "I can't believe she's not Treated!"-Steele at this point. I certainly didn't have most of these options when I created Meadow three years ago -___-
I mean you don't even need to touch Dumbfuck now wtf.

I know some these perks were already listed above, but I'll include them for the sake of completion:

Jungle Queen Scent & Energized Libido from Amazona
Alpha Scent from Lupinol
Musky Pheromones from Lupine Ears
Pheromone Sweat from Sweet Sweat
Breed Hungry from the rebuilt Doll Maker
Fuck Sense from the rebuilt Doll Maker
Inhuman Desire +15 Max Lust from Mitzi's 'Dumbcunt' Cuntnosis (you need a vag for this and you'll probably have to get 'Easy')
Inhuman Desire +15 Max Lust from Mitzi's 'Dumbcunt' Cuntnosis (you need a vag for this)
Inhuman Desire +20 Max Lust from Submitting to Hylie in the VR portion of KiroQuest (will also give you Amazonian Needs which is +20 to minimum Lust)
As a substitute to Treated Readiness you can wear Savicite Panties from Mitzi or buy a savicite cockring from Korgi Hold.
 

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You know, with all the options available now to PCs you could totally make a "I can't believe she's not Treated!"-Steele at this point. I certainly didn't have most of these options when I created Meadow three years ago -___-
I mean you don't even need to touch Dumbfuck now wtf.

I know some these perks were already listed above, but I'll include them for the sake of completion:

Jungle Queen Scent & Energized Libido from Amazona
Alpha Scent from Lupinol
Musky Pheromones from Lupine Ears
Pheromone Sweat from Sweet Sweat
Breed Hungry from the rebuilt Doll Maker
Fuck Sense from the rebuilt Doll Maker
Inhuman Desire +15 Max Lust from Mitzi's 'Dumbcunt' Cuntnosis (you need a vag for this and you'll probably have to get 'Easy')
Inhuman Desire +15 Max Lust from Mitzi's 'Dumbcunt' Cuntnosis (you need a vag for this)
Inhuman Desire +20 Max Lust from Submitting to Hylie in the VR portion of KiroQuest (will also give you Amazonian Needs which is +20 to minimum Lust)
As a substitute to Treated Readiness you can wear Savicite Panties from Mitzi or buy a savicite cockring from Korgi Hold.
Some notes:
Order is important. Mitzi can only increase Inhuman Desire up to 30. If you have a higher value, she won't do anything. The VR adventure can increase an existing Inhuman Desire regardless of current value.
You'll also get Fuck Sense from Mitzi's Cuntnosis.
Savicite Panties require you to grow a cock (potentially temporarily) to get the Cum Bubble.
Amazonian Needs increases minimum Lust by 20, and you lose Energizing Libido if Libido drops below 40. You might not be able to fuck continuously back to back, but you'll likely have very rapid Lust gain.
I don't know if Pheromone Sweat is worth it. To my knowledge, most enemies don't like 'Sweaty', so you're mostly offsetting a penalty. On the other hand, there's no downside.
*Laquine Ears.

Now that I think on it, the Heavy Slut Ray has a Stun Chance. Not as reliable as Innocent Allure's Stagger, but it's something. Sexiness isn't really hard to come by if you care to prioritize it (although it might lead to less than ideal stats in other areas).
 
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Some notes:
Order is important. Mitzi can only increase Inhuman Desire up to 30. If you have a higher value, she won't do anything. The VR adventure can increase an existing Inhuman Desire regardless of current value.
You'll also get Fuck Sense from Mitzi's Cuntnosis.
Savicite Panties require you to grow a cock (potentially temporarily) to get the Cum Bubble.
Amazonian Needs increases minimum Lust by 20, and you lose Energizing Libido if Libido drops below 40. You might not be able to fuck continuously back to back, but you'll likely have very rapid Lust gain.
I don't know if Pheromone Sweat is worth it. To my knowledge, most enemies don't like 'Sweaty', so you're mostly offsetting a penalty. On the other hand, there's no downside.
*Laquine Ears.

Now that I think on it, the Heavy Slut Ray has a Stun Chance. Not as reliable as Innocent Allure's Stagger, but it's something. Sexiness isn't really hard to come by if you care to prioritize it (although it might lead to less than ideal stats in other areas).
One thing I haven't tried yet is getting Inhuman Desire from the Doll Maker (it can give you one rank) and seeing if that can bypass the need to acquire 'Easy' from Mitizi before getting the other +15 Inhuman Desire

Not as reliable as Innocent Allure's Stagger, but it's something.
I'm not sure faux-cow is worth it unless you're really into the concept. Being Treated and not having Treated Readiness just bothers me. I suppose wearing a savicite cockring could offset it, but I recall not being impressed with the overall package.
 
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There are other Pheromone perks: Alpha Scent (+4), Musky Pheromones (+5) and Jungle Queen Scent (+4). These all stack and are not removed by TFing to something else.
Because Jungle Queen Scent is from Amazonia, it's not actually mutually exclusive with Pheromone Cloud.

Most sources of Inhuman Desire (maximum Lust increase) come with a drawback. The really strange design decision is Dumb4Cum.
Just realized that no one ever mentions Skin Clear adding 2 levels of pheromones when you get lubricated skin effect.
 

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Unbimbofy you? But that would require some sort of debimbofier! Which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me laugh out loud and chortle.
 

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mmm, I could maybe see Dr. Lessau making something to help with it for Steele specifically, though from his comments an actual cure seems beyond the scope of the game's intended time frame so all he might pull off in the meantime might be a temporary intellect booster drug that could remove ditz/bro speech and boost int / will for a period of time by more or less overclocking your medical nanites to bridge the altered bits of brain. Of course it may also make the actual bimbofication worse when it wears off, so use with care sort of thing. I'd like to see something like that in game so Dumb4Cum isn't quite as uniquely overpowered / convenient (to be clear, I like the D4C option, just wish there were more alternatives).
 
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