Concerning the character viewer

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Erivan

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I noticed that several features are still missing, and that the github site states that the last update was 11 months ago. I was just wondering if the character viewer is a project that is still being worked on, or has it been scrubbed in favor of other more important features?
 

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All of the character viewer projects have been abandoned, and to the best of my knowledge there are no plans to support them again at this time.

Frankly it's for the best, the typical output of every character viewer has been nightmarish.
 
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Sadly that seems to be the case. Realistically no character viewer will live up to your imagination unless it just lead to a quick sketch commission with your direct input  over what you wanted.

The character viewer I remember put out what I'd describe as "Kim Possible nightmare porn" images.
 

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I can't be the only one why found the old CoC viewer as posessing a certain charm. Also, I prefer a sketchy character viewer to no viewer at all.
 

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In a way it desensitized me to just how much smut I was getting myself into by showing me "myself" in a constant state of ahegao
 

Kesil

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If I'm not wrong, the constant state of ahegao wasn't always triggered... Does anyone know what did it make it change? Was it lust or corruption?
 
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JDeko

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Maybe lust, since my corruption was usually 0.
 

Kesil

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Considering how my Champions usually roll, I'd say you're right.
 

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Yeah, I tended to forget about my lust stat so it could've been uber-high.
 

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I tried bugging them in the group chat a few weeks ago about this, there used to be a download link for the first viewer and I'm surprised none of the higher ups I talked to had the link seeing as it used to be linked to on the site itself

all I can recommend is asking around, or if anyone else by chance has the download link that'd be neat

apparently some people complained about it messing up their saves but eh, what can you do? 

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who remember tho: http://puu.sh/k2DBR/45d1e91d81.png
 
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Ethereal Dragon

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I tried bugging them in the group chat a few weeks ago about this, there used to be a download link for the first viewer and I'm surprised none of the higher ups I talked to had the link seeing as it used to be linked to on the site itself

all I can recommend is asking around, or if anyone else by chance has the download link that'd be neat

apparently some people complained about it messing up their saves but eh, what can you do? 

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who remember tho: http://puu.sh/k2DBR/45d1e91d81.png

I just so happen to have copies for the old and newer character viewer

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n34r6f7rydra9jo/DIC.swf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fv3pvrlvu1g4cr4/CoC_Char_Viewer4.12.swf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsohnx36k5jvtn4/CharacterViewer-master.rar?dl=0

First and third links are the same thing, third link being the master files that compose the newer character viewer
 
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I just so happen to have copies for the old and newer character viewer

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n34r6f7rydra9jo/DIC.swf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fv3pvrlvu1g4cr4/CoC_Char_Viewer4.12.swf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsohnx36k5jvtn4/CharacterViewer-master.rar?dl=0

First and third links are the same thing, third link being the master files that compose the newer character viewer

I love you so much right now, also this means I need to download CoC for it to work too right? 
 

Ethereal Dragon

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I love you so much right now, also this means I need to download CoC for it to work too right? 

only thing you need is save game files I believe.
 
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We stopped sharing it because it sometimes ate save files.

*directly modified character properties in the save file. If you touched anything after loading a save, it had a fair chance of blowing the save up entirely.
 

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*directly modified character properties in the save file. If you touched anything after loading a save, it had a fair chance of blowing the save up entirely.
What reason could a character viewer possibly have to do that?
 

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I don't doubt that it happened, I'm just shocked at how staggeringly badly designed a character viewer would have to be for that to even be a thing that could happen. It'd be like if I tried making toast and instead I started the Black Plague.
 
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Maybe changing pointers? Fucking save files, how do they work.
 

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It's how shared objects work, for "ease of use".

A shared object is a container that has a *data segment that gets written to disk.
If you just grab the data segment after loading the shared object, you're referencing the object structure directly.
If you modify the data in the referenced object, you're also modifying data inside the shared object**.
Certain things (including closing the swf/tab/etc) will flush the current state of the shared object to disk***.

* This is done using structural encoding called AMF. If you have a custom class and serialize it, the *class path* itself gets serialized into the object. When you then load the object, Flash looks for that class to create an instance of it. If that class has gone missing****, or no longer has properties that are in the serialized object, the whole thing breaks.

And now you know why TiTS saves things in the way it does. Everything is converted into a dynamic object with only basic data types (int, number, string, array, object), and the shared object is only open long enough to immediately clone its data contents into another structure to avoid potential fuckery.

** Which is easy to do, because AMF makes it *feel* like the purposeful structure you've created with your custom classes is right there, and it's all nicely typed and has properties etc etc.

*** If you don't either a) explicitly "clone" (read: create a deep copy) the data segment, or (I think) b) reference the data segment elsewhere and then explicitly close the shared object, then you're effectively working directly on the object that will be saved again as soon as the swf closes.

**** Unless you add classpath overrides to tell the AMF system to use a different class in place of another. This still doesn't help you with missing properties though.

Consider some naive structure like (which is almost exactly what the character viewer was doing in parts):

Code:
var viewer_dongs:Array = new Array();

function new_character()
{
    // this is a very common way to "clear" an array if you google such for as3.
    viewer_dongs.splice(0, viewer_dongs.length);
}

function load_slot()
{
    var savefile:SharedObject = SharedObject.getLocal("Save_1", "/");
    viewer_dongs = savefile.data.dongs;
}

function removeADong(idx:int)
{
    viewer_dongs.splice(idx, 1);
}

function addADong()
{
    viewer_dongs.push(new Dong());
}

Load a save then anything you do will also modify the data in the shared object, as the arrays storing viewer data are actually parts of the shared objects internal data.

Spy dis
 
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Heka

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Sorry for the eventually troubles. I think i registered in the forum alot of time ago but i forgot it all, so i registered again. This is my first post now :D
Hi all and nice to be part of this forum. I used CoC text game for alot of years, and always wished to help with some feats of the game. Now could be that time. I too, was dissatisfacted with the Char Viewer, and always thought to draw the other options myself, but never got the chance. Now i'd like to try it seriously, but i see the idea was put at hold for some bugs\glitches. Oh beh, i want to do it the same. There's hope to have the original images i can work on? Tried to 'open' the swf file without avail, so i think i have to work on the original, pre-swf inserted images to have some real chances. I'll post here my works if needed :)

I humbly ask this as a long time fan and player, at least for once i'd like to see a CoC Char Viewer fuller of images, i'd like to see snake\spider fangs, the various tongues, some visible scale skin and so on. Hope i'm not asking too much.

Thanks in advance and sorry again.
Peace

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Sorry for the eventually troubles. I think i registered in the forum alot of time ago but i forgot it all, so i registered again. This is my first post now :D
Hi all and nice to be part of this forum. I used CoC text game for alot of years, and always wished to help with some feats of the game. Now could be that time. I too, was dissatisfacted with the Char Viewer, and always thought to draw the other options myself, but never got the chance. Now i'd like to try it seriously, but i see the idea was put at hold for some bugs\glitches. Oh beh, i want to do it the same. There's hope to have the original images i can work on? Tried to 'open' the swf file without avail, so i think i have to work on the original, pre-swf inserted images to have some real chances. I'll post here my works if needed :)

I humbly ask this as a long time fan and player, at least for once i'd like to see a CoC Char Viewer fuller of images, i'd like to see snake\spider fangs, the various tongues, some visible scale skin and so on. Hope i'm not asking too much.

Thanks in advance and sorry again.
Peace

-Heka-
i would also like to see more options in the viewer. one thing "text based games" dont have is good graphics.
 

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Why did you have to do this!? Ted or someone else that are a higher power I think it's time to put this thread out of it's misery.
 
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so the character viewer isn't getting any more attention? what happened to it?
 
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