Companions and Corruption

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If our companions had their own corruption quantified, where do you think they would sit on the scale? I doubt any or all of them are pure at this stage. But who's pure, who's tainted, are any of our companions corrupted? Demon Viv is obvious. But what do you think of the others or Human Viv?
 

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Cait: 10-20, more if you take the "build the temple" path.
Ryn: 0
Brint/Brienne: 0-5.
Azzy: 5-10
Quinn: Who's Quinn?
Atugia: 0.
Arona: 20+
Kiyoko: 0-5
Agni: Who's Agni?
 
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Quin was part of a sex cult until the start of the game and uses sex magic as part of his base kit, so I'd think he, at the least, starts out tainted/with some sort of corruption. I'd love to see both a redemption path and a full corruption/demonic path for him, but I doubt that that's in the plans for him, unfortunately.
 
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Cait: 10-20, more if you take the "build the temple" path.
Ryn: 0
Brint/Brienne: 0-5.
Azzy: 5-10
Quinn: Who's Quinn?
Atugia: 0.
Arona: 20+
Kiyoko: 0-5
Agni: Who's Agni?
I pretty much agree although I think there are more variables in them in certain scenes and corruption has never been a very consistent mechanic. Etheryn can become just as much of a slut as Cait. Kiyoko is a mega freak she just hides it. Basically what does "corruption" even mean? Does it mean being evil, slutty, or just being tainted by demon magic or whatever? |Etheryn has a soul chastity cage on for most of the game. |bound to a demon btw and she was toyed with by Kas before you find her||
 

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Kiyoko is lowkey Yandere, she's just fine with harem unlike the typical yandere trope. Yandere's are always freaks for their interest.
 
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Kiyoko is lowkey Yandere, she's just fine with harem unlike the typical yandere trope. Yandere's are always freaks for their interest.
Interesting theory. I can see why you think that possibly. Would like to hear some specifics and expansions on your thoughts for that. She did seem to be fine with not seeing you for like a decade plus time skip between the last time you visit her in the astral plane to when Keros brings her out of it. Not exactly sure how that works since from my perspective I visited her every single night for about an in game year before fixing the amulet and then all of sudden Kinu says they have not seen you in many years. Yandere typically would have a huge problem with that.
 

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Don't remind me, that stupid time skip (among other things) made me avoid her entirelly.

Oh my sweet fox wife, and my cute little Kinu, how I miss the days when we were happy...
 

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Don't remind me, that stupid time skip (among other things) made me avoid her entirelly.

Oh my sweet fox wife, and my cute little Kinu, how I miss the days when we were happy...
Yeah I did not care for the time skip either. I quit my playthrough shortly after that and have not had a playthrough get so far again yet. This time I plan to try to get 32 kits before fixing the amulet but that is a hell of a lot of grinding. This game has way too much grinding imo and after awhile I just start skipping text and miss shit. My furthest playthrough I quit because there were like 3 events that were large lore dumps and text heavy all in a row that I could not save easily between and could not be fucked to read. I had the Winter City event, then the catacombs in the Winter City where you meet Etheryn's ancestors, then the ball event with Etheryn all in a row and I just quit the game instead. Now it has been like a year so I am starting over. Etheryn is my favorite character but it is too much in a row. I have ADHD please have mercy like damn.
 
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Interesting theory. I can see why you think that possibly. Would like to hear some specifics and expansions on your thoughts for that. She did seem to be fine with not seeing you for like a decade plus time skip between the last time you visit her in the astral plane to when Keros brings her out of it. Not exactly sure how that works since from my perspective I visited her every single night for about an in game year before fixing the amulet and then all of sudden Kinu says they have not seen you in many years. Yandere typically would have a huge problem with that.
That's why I say low key, she still has a lot of her faculties unlike the typical yandere trope. She's absolutely obsessed with you and tends to care very little for anyone else other than you and her own family you made with her. She gets incredibly upset if you haven't knocked her up in a while and you even do have a full yandere dream about her as well which I feels like it is implied that some of the tendencies are there. Your point regarding the time skip though is easily explained - Kiyoko knows how time fluctuates between within the Dream and the real world, the ratio is in flux and you nor her can control it. She just accepts that. Which is why she wouldn't flip, plus if you think about it - she always has little pieces of you to keep her company - your children.
 
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That's why I say low key, she still has a lot of her faculties unlike the typical yandere trope. She's absolutely obsessed with you and tends to care very little for anyone else other than you and her own family you made with her. She gets incredibly upset if you haven't knocked her up in a while and you even do have a full yandere dream about her as well which I feels like it is implied that some of the tendencies are there. Your point regarding the time skip though is easily explained - Kiyoko knows how time fluctuates between within the Dream and the real world, the ratio is in flux and you nor her can control it. She just accepts that. Which is why she wouldn't flip, plus if you think about it - she always has little pieces of you to keep her company - your children.
So she is basically a yandere with none of the drawbacks of being a yandere and is super reasonable?
 

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Pretty much, they apparently exist. Not all yandere's go out and kill all other love interests. She's hyper focused on you, I mean even in the threesomes available it's purely about your pleasure for her and the other party is just another tool for that.

Honestly thinking about it, I'd probably put her corruption at around 10-15 because of this.
 

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Pretty much, they apparently exist. Not all yandere's go out and kill all other love interests. She's hyper focused on you, I mean even in the threesomes available it's purely about your pleasure for her and the other party is just another tool for that.

Honestly thinking about it, I'd probably put her corruption at around 10-15 because of this.
Well it goes back to what does "corruption" even mean? In the first game I took it to mean demonic taint. If that is the case then most companions would be basically 0. Etheryn would actually be one of the highest tbh. You can pretty easily be a huge slut while having 0 corruption in game. I am like the biggest man whore ever and always rocking 0 corruption.
 

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"Corruption is the darker side of Libido. While Libido represents your sex drive and sexual stamina, Corruption is your sexual empathy, your shamelessness, and hedonism. It's a measure of your descent into the sexual madness of the demons, obsessed only with your own self-gratification." This is what the wiki says. Based on what you just said with Kiyoko only focused on the player that does not quite fit as it specifies that you only care about yourself.
 

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Corruption just touches your ability to feel empathy (decreases it) and increases your sex drive. She doesn't really care much for your other lovers for example, she is kind to them but doesn't interact with them unless necessary. She also has an insane libido so I feel 10-15 is a good number to explain that. How corruption shows that varies between people though.
 

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A good example is Aileh. She's basically 99 corruption. But honestly you wouldn't be able to fully tell considering her personality.
 

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Well in the case of Kiyoko she has incredible empathy for the player specifically and never loses that. So it is hard to say. She has absolutely 0 contact with any demons afaik. So I don't really understand how she could get corrupted. If it is just a personality stat then Aileh makes no sense. It is directly related to demons in some way.
 

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Corruption is inherent, demons are just able to influence its growth magically, directly through their fluids and magic. You gain corruption for dark or cruel acts regardless of demons being involved. Plenty of examples of this in game, just look at the corruption page on the wiki for ways to gain corruption. Also Kiyoko has empathy for you because she is obsessed with you. But that same level of care is not seen outside her own family (which I would include Komari - not in a blood related way though).

I think you are taking my calling her low key yandere in a bad light. I don't think it's bad at all myself. But I kind of have a yandere fetish sooo.... LMFAO.
 

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Corruption is inherent, demons are just able to influence its growth magically, directly through their fluids and magic. You gain corruption for dark or cruel acts regardless of demons being involved. Plenty of examples of this in game, just look at the corruption page on the wiki for ways to gain corruption. Also Kiyoko has empathy for you because she is obsessed with you. But that same level of care is not seen outside her own family (which I would include Komari - not in a blood related way though).

I think you are taking my calling her low key yandere in a bad light. I don't think it's bad at all myself. But I kind of have a yandere fetish sooo.... LMFAO.
Well for the player it is different. You have direct contact with demons from the beginning of the game and a powerful demon tempting you constantly in dreams trying to corrupt you. So in that situation any choice you make that leads closer to becoming a demon would corrupt you. However someone like Kiyoko is not even close to the same situation so her doing the same exact things I do not think would lead to corruption in the same way.
 

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Like I don't think you can just be an evil asshole all the time and become a demon. You have to have contact with demons and them influence you into becoming one. Looking at the list every single corruption gain looks to be having sex with people previously corrupted by Kas or doing things Kas would tempt you into doing with the dreams and such. Only thing possibly unrelated to Kas is the Virility Booster but come on where do you think he got it from?
 
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Even in that case, your companions are touched by corruption regardless. How? By adventuring with you, your always dealing with corruption either in fights (demons use their fluids in attacks all the time) or being around corrupted individuals - and even if you don't take into account that? You are already infected on some level so it can be argued your taint infects them. But I still think corruption is in ways inherent and can grow with or without a demon's direct influence. I do think you need a demon to go over the edge to demonhood however, or at least demonic magic.
 

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And it isn't so much the contact of demons why the player is more susceptible than most, it's the blast of magic power that has made your soul malleable. Viviane is similar in this regard and can easily turn into a demon if you don't warn her of the effects of succubus milk.
 

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And it isn't so much the contact of demons why the player is more susceptible than most, it's the blast of magic power that has made your soul malleable. Viviane is similar in this regard and can easily turn into a demon if you don't warn her of the effects of succubus milk.
Where did that magic blast come from though? That's right demon magic portals.
 

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That blast was, but the situation you are in is pretty well known in magic circles in the world we play in. Ivris explains this to you in the beginning of the game and I'm pretty sure Viviane also mentions similar things. Viviane didn't get blasted by a big demonic portal after all. It being demonic didn't matter, just the influx of magic did.
 

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That blast was, but the situation you are in is pretty well known in magic circles in the world we play in. Ivris explains this to you in the beginning of the game and I'm pretty sure Viviane also mentions similar things. Viviane didn't get blasted by a big demonic portal after all. It being demonic didn't matter, just the influx of magic did.
Yeah I never bothered reading anything Ivris says . I pick and choose my battles with reading in this game. Maybe I will this time. Like there is way more text in this game compared to the first game. I just get overwhelmed after a while tbh.