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The whole anal Virginity thing does feel little tacked on. And this is more on my end, being that it seems like a such silly idea at first place. Like the game could not figure out other ways to make Cait and champion relationship progress more apparent so it threw that in. But more to it, it feels strange how, after almost a year, she still does not have a scene for vagina only champions where they pleasur her through her ass despite her claiming that she saved it up for someone special. You get what I am implying here?

And the whole "diverging paths" thing I can not comment on since I do not know what it even implies. I, for the life of me, can not tell the difference between Mallach temple Cait and non Mallach one.
 

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hahah, Septimus your titles are always the best. "orc lady" HA (people have mixed opinions on Arona, so its funny that you just called her that)

I guess I like Azyran as a female character the most overall, but out of the list you gave.... I'd pick Cait

Ryn is a close second for me, and as far as Breinne goes... well Brint is bae, so to me changing him would be blasphemy therefore I've never even met brine or read a single one of her scenes so I guess I couldn't really say, when it comes to her. I bet I'd like her though, if I tried it.
 

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Honestly I like each of them for their own reasons. Azzy for that fucking body, Bri for that horny enthusiasm, rocket tits, and just being an overall cool person, Arona for tag teaming ladies(cough elthara cough) and high fiving during it cuz fuck yea, Cait for obvious massive milky reasons (if I could make her my own personal toy she would win serious points) Eth makes a great subby slut that you adore and love while breaking, (if eth had a twat she would win, would pound that so hard whoever pulled me outa her would become the next hero of Hyrule) Honorable mentions to atugia and kiyoko's bods.
 
For me personally out of those particular 4, it'd be Cait followed by Brinne then, Etheryn and lastly Arona.
I'm just not into hermaphrodites, no offense to those that are. It's just a complete deflation and turn off when they have male genitalia.
I may be in the minority that adores that Cait saved her back passage purity for someone special which could of course be our Champion. It's just nice to know that despite her devotion to the temple of Mallach, she's saved something for her special someone. I'm a sucker for such things, what can I say? Granted, her promiscuous ways do suck and it doth pain me so that she won't be monogamous.
 
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Definitely Brienne, Cait, Ryn, and then Arona.

About Brie, I'm not sure how to explain it, but while I'm not a fan of Brint for some reason, Brie's somehow different, a better version of Brint in some way. Like how she accepted who she became after seeing what she was capable of and then doing what she could to get used to her new self, hearing from Atuga about how she sat down to ask the female companions about everything female, her interactions with the kids in the school in Khor'Minos, her family accepting the new her and her happiness at how the PC compared her with her sister and mother...that kind of story I'm a massive sucker for, especially since it's so close to my PC's headcannon. Plus, chocolate cowgirl, I have a type and holy fuck Khor'Minos is my sacred ground. cough

Cait's just a wonderful bubbly girl who's dealt with a lot but she continues on, and the way she just shrugs off her insane talent in magic is pretty funny to me, likewise her lineage. On any other character, they'd be used as major character foci, but Cait's like, "...uhh, I'm a Slutty Priestess thank you very much!" That's the other thing I personally like about her, she makes it clear that she is who she is from the beginning, and I respect that, especially since my character is much the same but more select.

Ryn's is kinda Cait's opposite, she was almost broken by what she was dealt with by life, but she broke free to ask for help. That takes so much courage y'all, it's insane. Then when she got some help, she starts getting better, starts rebuilding herself slowly until that shy broken elf we first met was a distant memory. Sadly, there's not much more after that, she seems to backslide a little after she becomes the regent of Winter City. For now she's behind Cait, pending any other character developments, because otherwise, she'd definitely be tied with the catgirl.

Arona...she's far too simple and straight-forward I feel, in a way that I'm not sure I'm a fan of. She's like that one dude/tte who you sometimes chill with because your friends chill with them and while it would be a good time, you are just neutral with them? I'm not sure I explained that well, but needless to say, after I help her out with her quest to become the new chieftain, I peace out and leave her to rule over her tribe.
 

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Thinking about it I feel it is too hard to pick a favorite honestly, but if I had to pick one it would be Etheryn without a doubt, since holy crap she is adorable and I WILL PROTECT MY LITTLE ICE ELF, with sub-Arona in a close second. Cait I feel is more of a best friend, Brint/Brienne and Atugia are more battle buddies really.

As for Berwyn I keep him around because I hope to awaken his inner buttslut and get him to admit to loving it.
 

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I've loved Cait since the beginning. She's adorable all around : her face, her personnality, the way she always tries her best. Besides I love how open she is with her sexuality. It's so rare to see that kind of things in porn games. If I'm allowed to bed others I think one of the love interests should as well.
I just wish there were more voyeur/swapping/cuckold/however-you-want-to-name-it with her...

That aside, I hadn't had such a major crush on a character since Urta, to the point I had to make a quick account to say it.. I hope it will be possible at some point to have a "slut marriage" with her. Love ya, Cait <3
 
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I've loved Cait since the beginning. She's adorable all around : her face, her personnality, the way she always tries her best.
I also like how she's got a lot of interests and figuring out what she wants to do with her life other than necessarily being a Mallachite priestess is something she's working on.
I just wish there were more voyeur/swapping/cuckold/however-you-want-to-name-it with her...
Seeing her with other partners while you're not directly involved a la the town Explore option, or setting her up with others a la the Evelyn and Berwyn scenes? I can imagine more of those being written if there's interest. The last of those however is extremely divisive so unless it's in the context of a roleplay scenario you opt into, I doubt anyone's going to write it. There are already enough people (that fail to grasp the characters, the nature of the world or little things like Cait's mandatory chat on why monogamy is literally Against Her Religion) who whine that their virtual waifus are not monogamous when the Champ has no obligation to reciprocate. Cait for some reason seems to get the brunt of this even though, as you point out, she's very open about her sexuality and how she'll sleep around. Similar sorts of people complain about the honey-sweet Azzy/Lia couple even though they only get together if the Champ actively helps them connect.

Writing a scene where you don't opt-in and the content in any way belittles the Champ (or player, the people with this kind of attitude generally fail to distinguish between the two) would probably set those people off like Vesuvius. That said, the roleplay option could work if somebody wanted to write it; Nikol in KM has a story about a couple who wanted that kind of play and he was willing to deliver.
I hope it will be possible at some point to have a "slut marriage" with her. Love ya, Cait <3
Holding hands throughout the ceremony? Yes please.
 

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Brienne > Cat > Etheryn > Arona

For one: Big titty cowgirl. Yes, please. But also her character is really fun, how she explores her new reality, how she gets accepted by her family. I also really like how her scenes are written. Her submissiveness and how she gets off on the champion getting with other women is really hot. Reminds me a bit of Yarra from TLS.

Cat is a fun character as well. I don't mind that she's not monogamous, I don't assume most of them are unless they actively declare their love for the champion or theres an established relationship there. The champion certainly isn't so why would everyone else be? But I like Brienne just better.

Etheryn and Arona because I am not really a fan of futa characters. But of the two Etheryn is definetly the better one. She's really cute. But as someone else already said it's kind of a bummer how quickly you can outgrow basically all her scenes. Kind of curious that there's actually an anal training mechanic at work there, but why would that mechanic only train her for one size lower than the one she is being trained with? Seems counterintuitive.
 

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I found the cait love story angle kinda weird and the like anal virginity thing a bit cringey. Personally I dont really care for cait, always felt kinda like "Oh you thought this was a classic white mage love interest, well shes actually a prostitute" was off putting, esepcially with the "get with it, its never changing" lecture she gives you beforehand. Cut to her later on hinting at the player shes in love with them being thematically jarring when there are random town events where she walks out of a alley dripping cum.

And a lot of the stuff around her relgion, specifically the womb rental and how the kids are raised skeeves me out.

Her having a romance path will probably never be for me since prostitution is a bridge too far for a relationship with me, compared to even a regular open relationship. And just to state this I have no problems with sex work or workers Im talking about romantic relationships and dynamics in the game.

So my tiering would probably be Kiyoko=Brinenne>=ethryn>Azzy=subarona>cait>dom Arona.

I cant grade Atugia because she has so little content and I dont really get her character
Ironically, this is the way I feel in similar ways to Azzyran from a narrative standpoint, Liaden being a character is cool and all, but she's lesbian locked and won't participate in any content with you if you're male. Which frankly I dunno, there are only like two characters in this entire game that I know of that are like that, the Lupine chick in the gym (I don't even remember what her name is) and Liaden. Every other character has at least SOME option (granted a LOT are skewed towards males, albeit I assume the playing with dildos/toys works for females obviously as a secondary option).

Azzy doesn't even give you a speech really, she's kinda like this sweet innocent love bug that you romance and help save her hive, and then on the back end in a random scene says "hey can you help me pick up a chick for our poly relationship"? of which she won't participate in the group fun (if male I guess, I don't play female characters at all). If Azzy off the rip gave me a speech about the poly thing maybe I'd have been more okay with it, but she's legit, the SECOND introduced companion after Brint, so when I personally fell in love with this game, Azzy was top tier for me. Then left field Liaden is now in the relationship mix and there's zero content to actually participate in the relationship together that feels natural or wholesome to me as far as the other poly type dynamics that go on in COC2.

Just to chime in general on the thread here and be relevant instead of just a small rant

My personal ranking is probably Brienne -> Kiyoko -> Etheryn -> Cait -> Atuga -> Arona/Azzy.

Brienne is basically top tier by a pretty wide margin, probably the closest relationship you'd ever get to being monogamous (points for Etheryn go into this one too since I don't think she actively will seek out other people) in the world of COC2 and additionally, you can play the game like that if you want (short of losing a battle and getting yourself plundered). She also HAS options for the poly with the content Wsan has written for her family which is great, cause it's sorta just Brinenne + more women SIMILAR to her if not exact (praying for the continuation of that one). She's overall just a very enthusiastic lover and feels great to be with as far as the companions go.


Kiyoko fights hard for first, BUT Kiyoko is sort of unfair because she's the only companion/character in the game where you have a child you ACTUALLY interact with(this was a poll some months ago actually), which is a lot of points you could argue are more factored into the overall mix versus just 1<>1 with the character. She's closer in rank to Brienne if you factor in Kinu and the rest of the Den based content, that being said, it's no secret TOBS worked extremely hard (no pun intended) to get Kiyo and the content all put together and actually, DOESN'T want to do anymore because her content is honestly a small game in of itself IMO. I'd say she's number 1 or 2 depending on if you want to get crazy with trying to factor in the amount of content each character has, which once again varies wildly.

Etheryn is great, she's in a unique spot as a companion as far as character interaction and growth goes, she's meek and timid and grows into a leader and KNOWS her strengths and weaknesses, and is willing to have you at her side for it, she ranks pretty damn high on the actual list as well, but once again, due to content restrictions she's got more recently, but only because Alypia (praise be) has stepped in and started doing writing for her since I believe Savin was the only writer on her prior.

Cait is in an interesting spot, she's lower on my totem pole, but at least has my respect with the upfront expectations thing, I'd say rather than a 1<>1 romantic thing they sort of seed a bit throughout, Cait to me is a pro wing woman for getting some ass whenever/wherever you could want it(and helping her get some if she so desires, not that she needs help). I usually run a specific character that's catfolk just to pair up and ALSO make them courtesan background so that the goals and expectations are aligned, they've also got the Mallach Temple content in progress for working there which is cool and I think has a lot of promise depending on how far they take it.

Atuga is one of those characters that ranks low, but suffers from the "low content" threshold, and prior even RECRUITING her was a bit of a pain in the ass to do. So I'd say she's low but has promise, especially if you're into muscle/huge ass types of gals, cause she's got plenty for days as seen in the paired scene she's got with Brienne.

Arona is alright, I dig Futa a LOT in general, or shemale as the game refers to them, but I honestly just don't like her personality really. Very brash and bullish which just ain't my thing really. I think I'd actually enjoy Arona more if she could be paired up with Brienne as bedmates or otherwise. You can do it with Azzy and I do like that, but because of my gripes with Azzy I don't bother. Unironically, I love Ragnild/Hretha/Infrinth more than I like Arona, there's definitely something to be said about sexy orc ladies/men in the camp for breeding purposes, especially with Ragnild being hella wholesome and Hretha/Infrinth as the de facto breeders of the camp.

Azzy is the bottom tier for me, I felt shoehorned into a poly relationship, which granted is MY fault for assuming that Azzy was monogamous in the first place, BUT her content up to the end of saving the hive FEELS very 1<>1 and I kind of rank her so low because I feel like I got bait and switched on my expectations. There are also two pieces of content that require interaction with her, which at this point I don't really even want to but if I want a TRUE and blue Paladin Blade and also the ability to restore the Wayfort I have to go through her questline. Realistically I'm probably just hella in my feelings on this one, but ya I don't like her character at all anymore and if possible just ditch her at the hive for all eternity anymore.

Holy fuck this is basically a small TED talk about COC2 companions but whatever, read at your leisure my meaningless opinions if they interest you.
 

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Holy fuck this is basically a small TED talk about COC2 companions but whatever, read at your leisure my meaningless opinions if they interest you.

Note that as of 0.4.18 (October 2021), Azyrran does have a poly talk if you do the eventwhere you help her get with Liaden. She explains that polyamory is basically the default in vesperan culture, that she had this same talk with Liaden, and the whole thing about having room in her heart to love more than one person, and you can respond It's Fine, Can I Join?, or Keep2Yourself. There's also the threesome (femlocked), and special dialogue in the new LiadenQuest for if you've done the Azzy/Lia threesome.
 

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My Fomo is acting up so I'm gonna join in with my rankings at this moment in time.

Brienne>Atugia>Kiyoko>Azzy>Cait>Etheryn>Arona
Though the day Viviane is added will probably be the day she's put up top. I know what I'm about. Haven't really interacted with Agi much to judge.

Brienne is a busty muscly monster girl and the only thing that could make me like her more is if she were more dominant.

Atugia is a sweet and adorkable and I like that. Like Brienne I wish Tui was more dominant but I still like her. Brienne still edges her out though since Tui still needs more content. She is an unproblematic fave.

Kiyoko may not be mom of the year but I still like her. She has a cultured and refined personality. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, she does not say ara ara. So that and her dick focus bumps her down to me.

I actually don't have much of a problem with the Azzy/Lia thing outside of it being really sudden. My problem with Azzy that keeps her in the middle is that I'm still salty over her actions in the hive quest. But it's still Azzy though. I can't hate her. After the fight at least.

I feel kinda bad for this, but Cait has problems that kinda lower my view of her. I don't hate her, but I wouldn't say I like her as much as I did when I started. Personality wise at least. Combat wise she is probably never leaving my party.

Etheryn is in a weird place for me. I don't really dislike her, but I also don't really like her. I'm indifferent to her. Part of it is her confidence mechanic being something I just don't engage in and she just isn't my thing. I don't have any problems but I also don't pay much mind to her. Not sure where to put her in the rankings if at all as a result.

I still hate Arona. That's never gonna change.
 

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I'm kind of sad to see not a lot of ppl like Azzy....at least due to her relationship with Lia. Think I'll also throw in my 2 cents here.

Etheryn>Azzy>Agni>SubArona>Cait>Brienne>Kiyoko>Atugia>DomArona

I love our sweet elf princess Ryn. I always liked Ryn but you couldn't do a lot with Ryn as vagina-only pcs back then. But the nursing scenes, date in winter city, winter city balls, and etc. made me fall for her pretty hard (darn you Alypia for making me a simp for Ryn). Made an elf champ just for her which is my favorite main now.

Azzy's great. She's sweet & beautiful amazonian knight and a npc who'll PET YOU (that's instant bonus in my book for all my patslut pcs). What's not to like? Considering how this game setting is, polyamorous relationship seems common so I'm not bothered by her dating Lia at all. Honestly, I find their relationships super cute and I like seeing their interaction. Although I do agree it is bit sudden and feels a bit hasty? I never knew their threesome is locked behind female pcs though. A lot of ppl seem to have a problem with that but it's kind of refreshing to see a npc that's not ready to plop on pc's cock or interested in pc romantically/sexually. I mean there's plenty of female characters who's ready to worship pc's dick anyway and plenty of dicksexuals. So it's nice to see more lesbian characters. Heck I would like to see more gay/lesbian characters who's andro/gynosexual or into men/women exclusively (like Janeen/Jin-in).

Agni is new so not much content but I really like her energy and personality. I like that she can be dominant and takes active role in sex whether or not she's a herm/pure female and regardless of pc's gender. Excited for more of her content.

Arona....is complicated. I'm kind of in the middle between dom/sub but I do lean more toward subbing. So I use to really like DomArona until I saw that scene where herm pc can impregnate Arona where she basically says yeah the baby from her womb is worth more than baby from pc's womb and she impregnated pc for a, "damn reason I guess!" That scene really turned me off. Like really? If that scene was supposed to be some kind of emotional development, it didn't feel romantic at all. Implying there's hierarchy of babies even though they're BOTH pc's and Arona's babies. Yeah I guess that was somehow her best attempt at being romantic considering how orcs function (strong rules over weak taken to extreme) but that just made me dislike orcs even more (all the orcs can go fuck themselves except Vaush and Ragnild). Never subbed for Arona ever since.

Cait it less complicated but I see her more as best friend rather than lovers. I don't mind her sluttiness and being a prostitute. I think it's great she's confident in herself and her sexuality. I enjoy the scenes where pc can be slutty with Cait (like the Khorminos and Evelyn group sex scenes). Since she's one of the 1st companions there's a lot of sex scenes with her but she's severely lacking in romance department. Like the most romantic parts I've read/seen so far seems to be anal virginity scenes and the thickening of Cait where she mentions she would like to have babies with pc which seem to be more for bedicked champs/male audiences (make sense since they're the main audience). She just doesn't seem to be made for vagina-only champs in my opinion. Although I did enjoy the new temple prostitution scenes by tobs. Having a slut marriage between Cait and female champ doesn't sound too bad.

I can't say much about Brienne since I love Brint and I would feel horrible for changing him. Also, I would have liked for her to kept her dominant personality. But I did make a pc just for Les DomRina scene and that was easily one of the best scenes in this game for me. Really excited for more Les DomRina.

I feel bad for putting Kiyoko toward the bottom but I mainly play vagina-only pcs so I don't really use her most of the time. While I do have a herm-kitsune champ, I mostly did it to see Kinu content and I just skimmed through her sex scenes. I like her relationship with the champ and the devoted house wife thing isn't bad but when I was first playing this game I thought she was going to be like Tamamo-No-Mae from the fate franchise (one of my favorite ship has been female hakuno and tamamo). But then I found out she's locked behind having a dick. I know you can use a ghost light to have children with her but considering how much she likes being pregnant, it feels wrong? to continue to romance her as a vagina-only champ. Also the fact that story immediately assumes you're smitten/in love with her and the fact she doesn't seem to acknowledge if pc no longer has a dick (after getting out of orb which you can't impregnate her with the ghostlight). It feels like I'm robbing her of something.

As for Atugia.....I don't dislike her but she's REALLY lacking in content. So I honestly feel indifferent toward her. Ironic considering I put Agni, a new companion, above her but I feel Agni had more impact on me more than Tui. I sometimes forget Tui is there sometimes. Which is sad considering I really like her tomboy design and would like to see more of her but the new sex scenes feels....idk forced? Like it was added just to say, "hey, atugia exists!" or something.
 
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Note that as of 0.4.18 (October 2021), Azyrran does have a poly talk if you do the eventwhere you help her get with Liaden. She explains that polyamory is basically the default in vesperan culture, that she had this same talk with Liaden, and the whole thing about having room in her heart to love more than one person, and you can respond It's Fine, Can I Join?, or Keep2Yourself. There's also the threesome (femlocked), and special dialogue in the new LiadenQuest for if you've done the Azzy/Lia threesome.
Ye, I'm aware, I made a ridiculously long post about Azzy at some point in the past and her presentation in the game. One about actually just having the option to remove the constant "help me flirt" option she has if you recruit her, and additionally the beef I have with her narrative and presentation. I don't know if I CAN claim credit for the devs putting it in but eventually, it did make its way in to tailor the content.

At this point, I pretty much just leave Azzy in the hive since I have zero interest in her relationship dynamics with Liaden being a thing. Granted it's probably field day if you're more into playing female characters with the lesbian option, but I pretty much only play male characters so it doesn't make me feel good about the content.
 

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Ironically, this is the way I feel in similar ways to Azzyran from a narrative standpoint, Liaden being a character is cool and all, but she's lesbian locked and won't participate in any content with you if you're male. Which frankly I dunno, there are only like two characters in this entire game that I know of that are like that, the Lupine chick in the gym (I don't even remember what her name is) and Liaden. Every other character has at least SOME option (granted a LOT are skewed towards males, albeit I assume the playing with dildos/toys works for females obviously as a secondary option).
I have quite similar opinions on the azzy content but I didnt want to devolve the thread into a potential argument. Even after the update I really dont care for how its handled, like the hard no in my opinion kinda feels like the author didnt want to write it. And if youre male and hook them up azzy still gets sad if you say you dont want to see it. But its like she flat out said, Liaden has no interest in my male character, and theres a line when you walk in on them fucking where she gets a bit huffy when Azzy says she'll fuck the male champ later. So that feels like at best we would be friends that are still basically competing for same persons attention rather than being part of a equal relationship. As a result I dont get Azzy's disappointment, I mean I cant even interact with Liaden in general as npc so the only potential interaction is the above where I get told to go away which doesn't feel great. Some of that might be like you said just getting in my own feelings since azzy was a favorite of mine too and it just left a sour taste.

Iunno I dont care for any npc on npc romance or scenes that doesnt involve the players pov character as a equal part. That and all cards on the table I dont care for when npcs sleep around or talk about it, Im monogamous in real life, got no interest in open relationships. I can suspend disbelief for my POV character in a porn game, but when other characters start doing it I dislike it. Part of that is hypocritical I suppose but I am playing the game for entertainment and it just makes it harder to enjoy when it occurs. I think part of it, at least with a example like Liaden/Azzy is that it can feel like the npc pairing is the "real" relationship if that makes sense.

Either way its their game, they of course can do what they want and I will just not interact with the content I dont like. I will say I do appreciate that they've changed some things with player feed back
 
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I have quite similar opinions on the azzy content but I didnt want to devolve the thread into a potential argument. Even after the update I really dont care for how its handled, like the hard no in my opinion kinda feels like the author didnt want to write it. And if youre male and hook them up azzy still gets sad if you say you dont want to see it. But its like she flat out said, Liaden has no interest in my male character, and theres a line when you walk in on them fucking where she gets a bit huffy when Azzy says she'll fuck the male champ later. So that feels like at best we would be friends that are still basically competing for same persons attention rather than being part of a equal relationship. As a result I dont get Azzy's disappointment, I mean I cant even interact with Liaden in general as npc so the only potential interaction is the above where I get told to go away which doesn't feel great. Some of that might be like you said just getting in my own feelings since azzy was a favorite of mine too and it just left a sour taste.

Iunno I dont care for any npc on npc romance or scenes that doesnt involve the players pov character as a equal part. That and all cards on the table I dont care for when npcs sleep around or talk about it, Im monogamous in real life, got no interest in open relationships. I can suspend disbelief for my POV character in a porn game, but when other characters start doing it I dislike it. Part of that is hypocritical I suppose but I am playing the game for entertainment and it just makes it harder to enjoy when it occurs. I think part of it, at least with a example like Liaden/Azzy is that it can feel like the npc pairing is the "real" relationship if that makes sense.

Either way its their game, they of course can do what they want and I will just not interact with the content I dont like. I will say I do appreciate that they've changed some things with player feed ba
I have quite similar opinions on the azzy content but I didnt want to devolve the thread into a potential argument. Even after the update I really dont care for how its handled, like the hard no in my opinion kinda feels like the author didnt want to write it. And if youre male and hook them up azzy still gets sad if you say you dont want to see it. But its like she flat out said, Liaden has no interest in my male character, and theres a line when you walk in on them fucking where she gets a bit huffy when Azzy says she'll fuck the male champ later. So that feels like at best we would be friends that are still basically competing for same persons attention rather than being part of a equal relationship. As a result I dont get Azzy's disappointment, I mean I cant even interact with Liaden in general as npc so the only potential interaction is the above where I get told to go away which doesn't feel great. Some of that might be like you said just getting in my own feelings since azzy was a favorite of mine too and it just left a sour taste.

Iunno I dont care for any npc on npc romance or scenes that doesnt involve the players pov character as a equal part. That and all cards on the table I dont care for when npcs sleep around or talk about it, Im monogamous in real life, got no interest in open relationships. I can suspend disbelief for my POV character in a porn game, but when other characters start doing it I dislike it. Part of that is hypocritical I suppose but I am playing the game for entertainment and it just makes it harder to enjoy when it occurs. I think part of it, at least with a example like Liaden/Azzy is that it can feel like the npc pairing is the "real" relationship if that makes sense.

Either way its their game, they of course can do what they want and I will just not interact with the content I dont like. I will say I do appreciate that they've changed some things with player feed back
Nah for sure, a lot of what you said was really what I broke down in a post outlining that(along with other issues I felt should be put out there)

This was actually immediately AFTER the CG release patch where you walk in on Azzy fucking Liaden. That was pretty much the patch I decided that I didn’t want to be involved with her content/writing any longer. It really is tough, because it’s a porn game and the general feel is “hey fuck whoever you want, whenever you want” with most of the companions and they’re chill with it. To not be completely game breaking you sorta have to, BUT that doesn’t really excuse what you mentioned above where Liaden gets butt hurt about us being a part of the equation. It feels adversarial instead of a legit relationship where your feelings are legitimately being concerned and listened to.

Not to mention, a lot of the options on god read like you’re being GUILTED as well(Azzy being disappointed that you don’t want to see her fucking other people that don’t want you in on it). Someone quoted me earlier about them adding “the talk” that Azzy gives, but for the most part my issue wasn’t that there WASNT a talk or relationship boundaries established, it’s just that it’s extremely sudden and out of left field, paired on top of Liaden’s vibe in the CG mentioned above. If Azzy would’ve given me a Cait style, “hey I’m a vesparen, before we bang I NEED to be with other people because it’s how we function” convo then it wouldn’t really be a problem. Instead, up to the end of Milk and Honey quest, the relationship FEELS exclusive between you two, and all of a sudden Liaden shows up and Azzy is hot and horny for her, for borderline no reason? Sure she helps with the Hive purification but the fighting and everything else is done solely by us. Then, recruit Azzy because she’s great and you love her, BOOM time to open our relationship bitch, oh, and she’s a lesbian so we’re gonna keep all our shit separate too. “Ummm alright, suuuuuuure”

proceeds to delete save and leave Azzy at the hive

Tbh since I had left her at the hive I wasn’t even 100% sure Liaden was lesbian locked in the first place until today. Just sort of maybe assumed that the content wasn’t written or anything. Gave her a second chance and took her on a quest to restore her Order’s honor. Nope, at best she’s cordial, otherwise she feels like a complete interloper in the game as a male character(not to mention I took one for the team and got pounded by the gnoll princess). Hey, MAYBE (not holding my breath) she’ll get more fleshed out and you can do some couple stuff all TOGETHER and it’ll soften the blow, but right now the quest lines are in the red for me. I will do it for my shiny Paladin sword of Lumia, and also to renovate my fort, but all dialogue will be skipped and ignored.

Either way, much love and respect to all the writers and hard work, it’s hard to like, go on a tirade and I don’t want (I believe it’s SKoW that writes Azzy) to feel unappreciated or anything, but overall Azzy feels like she went from top tier to bottom tier for me for the aforementioned reasoning. They have every right to tell us to piss off but it hella sucks lmao. I appreciate the time you took to read my sermon Squid