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Bewitched_Fogs

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Self Note: Seriously please don't accidentally pressing buttons this time.

Please leave room for constructive objection/criticism/argument, this thread is not for those who simply wanted to have fun/fuck/floof.


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"Are you going to take Mother out with you again soon, Dad?"

Maybe. Maybe not. Why?

"It's... well, I'm not going to say that there are two ways of doing things around here, because Mother usually just overrules most of what I want. But when she's not around, I can do things with my siblings my way, and when she is around we do things hers, and I then compare the results to see which is more efficient and produces the better outcomes."


And no doubt hers produce the better outcomes, because she's the one setting the benchmarks for what's "better" in the first place. Doesn't she see the problem with that to begin with?

"Dad! You're taking her side!"


You're merely pointing out a flaw in her methodology here. Maybe she should get someone more inclined to be impartial as a judge. Maybe Komari?

"I just —"


It is true, or it isn't true. That's how she does things, right?

"I don't want to talk about this any more."

The argument came from The Champion simply doesn't make sense to me no matter how much I tried to wrap my head around it.

Given the "hers" (See the 3rd/4th paragraph) while it is very easy to associate that with Kiyoko but since The Champion often called Kiyoko directly during most of the Kinu's conversation, the term is assumed to be referring Kinu herself, otherwise the argument would be too nonsensical to process. (yes, I tried)

Definition of the benchmarks:
Reference points that you use to compare your performance against the performance of others.

Since Kinu is trying to compare her method in constrast to her mother's based on the performance of the kits, so the benchmark is the kits themselves.

Except that, while Kinu's method does suffered from the biases of the judge which in this cases to be Kinu herself, her method will always be better because of the said biases as The Champion has pointed out later.

Which has nothing to do with the benchmark at all which The Champion brought up earlier. It is the criteria of the judge who define what being "better" that causing the problem.

Note: I personally think that it would be better that the first "better" on the 4th paragraph should be quoted just like the second "better" on the same paragraph
 

The Observer

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As far as the argument goes, this is what was intended:

>Kinu and Kiyoko set educational policies for the kits.
>Kinu believes that hers are better, because they produce the results that she wants in her siblings.
>The champion points out that her definition of "better" -- said criterion by which she judges her siblings -- as you noted, is obviously biased and suggests a more impartial judge of the situation.

It's pretty clear to me -- the benchmark here being referred to is the set of criterion by which she judges her siblings' progress:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/benchmark

1. a standard of excellence, achievement, etc., against which similar things must be measured or judged: The new hotel is a benchmark in opulence and comfort.
2. any standard or reference by which others can be measured or judged: The current price for crude oil may become the benchmark.

Indeed, criterion is considered a strong synonym for benchmark:


So this is likely where your confusion arises:

so the benchmark is the kits themselves.

Which, more correctly as I said above, is the criterion by which she judges her siblings.

Did that help?
 

Bewitched_Fogs

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As far as the argument goes, this is what was intended:

>Kinu and Kiyoko set educational policies for the kits.
>Kinu believes that hers are better, because they produce the results that she wants in her siblings.
>The champion points out that her definition of "better" -- said criterion by which she judges her siblings -- as you noted, is obviously biased and suggests a more impartial judge of the situation.

It's pretty clear to me -- the benchmark here being referred to is the set of criterion by which she judges her siblings' progress:



Indeed, criterion is considered a strong synonym for benchmark:



So this is likely where your confusion arises:



Which, more correctly as I said above, is the criterion by which she judges her siblings.

Did that help?
I suppose that boils down to the secondary definition from the term which applies to the situation which maybe unfamiliar to non-native english reader. Thanks for clearing it up.

Just a heads up to everyone, based on the incredibly close timing between their 'last online' (Saturday at 9:42 PM) and the creation of this account along with some strong similarities in writing and focus on specific discourse, there's a good chance this person is @MeIsntVeryCreative on a new account. There's a chance i'm wrong but making alt accounts is the common behaviour of trolls so treat them as if they're new, but remain vigilant.
Not necessarily, given that players making a new account to specifically report issues is not unheard of. Beside, the forum has allowed guest posting as an alternative for possible trolling as you described. Although I personally wouldn't considered this thread as an attempt to troll, by itself that is given the effort I've put in; not saying that you shouldn't be cautious that is, you can never be sure especially with these days.
 
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