[0.9.079-PUBLIC#4082] Thraggen Harness vs Bulky Belly

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Theron

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Thraggen Harness' description and effect lead me to believe that it's supposed to mitigate the Bulky Belly penalty. However, as far as I can tell, Bulky Belly only applies based on belly size. Weight has nothing to do with it.

Is this wishful thinking? If so, what benefit does 'Belly Weight Reduction' have?
Breed Hungry has the same issue.
 

lowercase_donkey

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It reduces belly weight by 50% from what I can see. That's it.

Bulky belly looks at bellyRating not weight. IDK why it's made like this, but the two measures are incredibly divorced from each other in the code.

However, as far as I can tell, Bulky Belly only applies based on belly size. Weight has nothing to do with it.

spot on.
 

Theron

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Bulky belly looks at bellyRating not weight. IDK why it's made like this, but the two measures are incredibly divorced from each other in the code.
Was Belly Weight Reduction intended to effectively be cosmetic, or was the item written by someone who didn't know how the system was implemented? Is it even possible to know?
 

Hanzo

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Bulky belly looks at bellyRating not weight. IDK why it's made like this, but the two measures are incredibly divorced from each other in the code.
Can you ask if it's working correctly? As it is, everything that impacts belly weight don't matter at all.

I wrote it at the same time as the cow print ball bra. Ball immobilization is coded similarily and checks for weight:
if(weightQ >= PlayerCharacter.percentBalls[0] && heightQ >= PlayerCharacter.lvlRatioBalls[0] && !this.hasStatusEffect("Egregiously Endowed"))
I didn't notice bulky belly doesn't.
 

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I'll try to look into this, but do you have a save file I can use to test with? Preferably with the item and a belly that induces "Bulky Belly".
 

Jacques00

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Thanks, this should now be fixed for the next release. Any equipped item with the belly supporting flag should now remove the Bulky Belly status effect. The belly should still be affected by Immobilization since only anti-grav outfits fight against that condition.

To avoid adding another layer of complexity, I decided that the Bulky Belly should just remain size-based, so weight for the belly only contributes to immobilization (if at all).
 
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Theron

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To avoid adding another layer of complexity, I decided that the Bulky Belly should just remain size-based, so weight for the belly only contributes to immobilization (if at all).
While not listed in the Perk description, Breed Hungry decreases Belly Weight from pregnancy by 25%. At least in Flash it does.

Also, I'm fairly sure only oversized balls can cause Immobilization.
 

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While not listed in the Perk description, Breed Hungry decreases Belly Weight from pregnancy by 25%. At least in Flash it does.

Also, I'm fairly sure only oversized balls can cause Immobilization.
Yea, "Breed Hungry" still does that, even though the belly weight really has no consequences as far as I know. I mention "if at all" primarily because while the immobilization calculation for huge bellies exists, I'm not certain it does much because there isn't a specific event connected to it--but yes, testicles can cause immobilization (as that was the main contributing reason why I created weight system originally).
 
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