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Thank you! I found them

So I've been searching near the junk pile on tarkus like it said to on the wiki, but but i haven't found Ben/Bess yet. So i was wondering if i just need to look longer, if theres a special condition to finding them, or if i found them before and didn't notice and now i cant find them again. or...

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Sorry for asking such a stupid question, but how do i get into Rigard? I know you need a pass, and i think you can get one from Gwendy. But whenever i ask her she says to ask tomorrow morning, again, and again. so how do i get in the city?