Futa vs Traps

cobra

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So I know I have discussed this here before and decided to kinda get my feet wet with traps threw games like Lilith's Throne and think I can see the appeal. They are like flat-chested futa with small cocks even though I prefer huge melons on everything and big cocks on my futa. :p So my question to trap fans is that how some see it as well and if you like both but have a stronger preference for traps then whats stopping you from just going all the way and adding the extra equipment?
 

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As I understand it many of those who are big fans of traps are specifically looking for male characters who present as very feminine, as opposed to futa, certain MtF and other d-girl characters who are basically women with dicks. So they're after gay male (if male) and straight (if female) sex. It all gets wrapped up in who identifies as what and the pronouns they're using and becomes very complicated, so generally I've found it easier to just accept that people are gonna be into what they're into.
 

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Traps are more realistic than futa, in as much as cross-dressers and transgender people exist. You feel you're touching something realer with femboys, futa is in the realm of pure fantasy.

The whole concept of a male feeling so feminine that it overcomes their very sex is extremely hot to me.

If everything had gigantic dicks and boobs it would be very boring. Variety, spice. So much fun to be had with small, sensitive pricks on a blushing submissive.
 

cobra

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As I understand it many of those who are big fans of traps are specifically looking for male characters who present as very feminine, as opposed to futa, certain MtF and other d-girl characters who are basically women with dicks. So they're after gay male (if male) and straight (if female) sex. It all gets wrapped up in who identifies as what and the pronouns they're using and becomes very complicated, so generally I've found it easier to just accept that people are gonna be into what they're into.

Yeah, this was my argument in the other thread that I thought traps was mostly to me a inverse homosexual phenomenon not that theirs anything wrong with it.

Traps are more realistic than futa, in as much as cross-dressers and transgender people exist. You feel you're touching something realer with femboys, futa is in the realm of pure fantasy.

The whole concept of a male feeling so feminine that it overcomes their very sex is extremely hot to me.

If everything had gigantic dicks and boobs it would be very boring. Variety, spice. So much fun to be had with small, sensitive pricks on a blushing submissive.

Yeah well I find most real mainstream porn boring these days. I'm just a heterosexual who enjoys yuri stories and situations but finds the same mainstream porn with fake lesbians boring as hell. Futanari just gives me an outlet to have that plus all the money shots in heterosexual porn but not to the point enough to say I'm in denial of my sexuality.
 
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In some cases, traps are basically just thin, flat chested women. So someone being into that body type and not voluptuous, curvy, or just large chested women will likely find them more attractive. The presence of a dick or not is a different kink, but dicks on chicks is a popular and common enough kink that it can to add to the appeal rather than detract from it.
 

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Being Pansexual, most sexes and genders i'm okay with to a varying degree as some of them tickle my fancy more than others as part of my standards and preferences which i pass onto my MCs and NPCs (somewhat). I do find the feminine type of men attractive (i won't go into type to save time and space) and their need to submit to a feminine type of sex and being the part is appealing to me, I find traps attentive and understandable whereas a woman can be a pain in the ass and not as attentive because it isn't about her. Tomboys are the same in that regard as well, in terms of my experience. Futanari, or hermaphrodite, as it is closer to in translation - i love to death but i love having all the genitalia and not just the one set of knockers and a swing dick and balls to boot. Having fucked a herm, i can say that they can use both somewhat, or not able to produce offspring which is the fantastical side of the story comes in, there are women who intentionally opt to get dicks to see the appeal and get addicted to it so they do exist but its rare.

Between Traps and Futanari, i feel more inclined to be more in tuned with the Futa than i do Traps specifically because i like the best of both worlds and not settling for less whereas the personality of Traps weigh-in heavier than Futa. In IRL, hermaphrodites all the way! But games, dojins, etc. I'd balance them on preference.
 
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What do you mean by getting dicks? IRL? How do they live outside, like going to the beach or wearing something tight.

Imagine seeing one IRL. I do like futas in smut games but I don't know how I would react to that.
 

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What do you mean by getting dicks? IRL? How do they live outside, like going to the beach or wearing something tight. Imagine seeing one IRL. I do like futas in smut games but I don't know how I would react to that.

For those interested in the medical knowledge of how its done see "spoiler"

It's Phalloplasty, and sex-rearrangement surgery, that make it work. For the interesting bits, they take the penis and fold it inside out to then graph inside the pelvis to creats a uterus and graphing the cervix for "men transitioning to female". Meanwhile a woman getting get a lift would receive a penile prosthetic to which skin from thigh or arms will be graphed onto it so that they would be able to have erections whereas the labia (lips) would be stretched and made into testicles and implants. Both genitalia can be re-routed to urinate respectively midway through surgery to avoid infections or obstructions.
 

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I think it's because I like futas that I like traps. I've always preferred more thin/lithe women so the body type appeals to me. And because I enjoy futas, the inclusion of a dick on a chick (since I prefer to identify traps as female) does nothing to diminish my enjoyment. The only added enjoyment I might get from it being a trap and not just a small chested futa is the slight domination of having someone physically male completely embrace femininity through the pleasure of getting fucked.
 

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Yeah well I find most real mainstream porn boring these days. I'm just a heterosexual who enjoys yuri stories and situations but finds the same mainstream porn with fake lesbians boring as hell. Futanari just gives me an outlet to have that plus all the money shots in heterosexual porn but not to the point enough to say I'm in denial of my sexuality.
That's pretty much where I am too. I don't like looking at men at all, so most mainstream porn is out and a lot of lesbian porn seems fake, though I've found some good amateur stuff that isn't. Good strapon porn is hard to find too. Futa is pretty much 'all of the fucking, none of the men', so it's got everything I want and nothing I don't. :D And I know some people will be like "you don't like men, but you're okay with dicks?" and all I can say to that is futa's different. I'm not really focused on the dick, I'm focused on the two or more women fucking.

All I have to say about traps is that I'm not into them but there's nothing wrong with them. *shrug*
 
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Tinman

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I now wonder... Can't fat guys be traps?

Technically, I suppose they can. Since the defining quality is being effeminate enough that they can fool men into believing they really are women, anyone with slim enough shoulders and wide enough hips could qualify regardless of weight. Although if too much fat is focused on their chest they may be more dickgirl/shemale than trap.
 

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I don't think that moobs is the same kink than large femenine breasts in males, but that might be just me.
 

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On a fat guy that looks like a woman, would it really be all that different from a fat shemale?
 

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It'd depend on said fat guy having actual breasts and identifying himself as such.
 

cobra

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That's pretty much where I am too. I don't like looking at men at all, so most mainstream porn is out and a lot of lesbian porn seems fake, though I've found some good amateur stuff that isn't. Good strapon porn is hard to find too. Futa is pretty much 'all of the fucking, none of the men', so it's got everything I want and nothing I don't. :D And I know some people will be like "you don't like men, but you're okay with dicks?" and all I can say to that is futa's different. I'm not really focused on the dick, I'm focused on the two or more women fucking.

All I have to say about traps is that I'm not into them but there's nothing wrong with them. *shrug*


Couldn't have said it any better myself really. My mind or preference on traps havent hasen't changed be that as it may. Also if your looking for actual good lesbian porn then just look for anything with South African born director Viv Thomas's name attached to it. His porn films are story light romances with actual beautiful lesbians or I guess at the very least can fake it well enough that they don't need penetrative sex toys to get off.
 

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Yuri hentai is one of my best hentai type but it is not always someday i hate to think about it but in few days i like it so much besides futanari :)
 

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For those interested in the medical knowledge of how its done see "spoiler"

It's Phalloplasty, and sex-rearrangement surgery, that make it work. For the interesting bits, they take the penis and fold it inside out to then graph inside the pelvis to creats a uterus and graphing the cervix for "men transitioning to female". Meanwhile a woman getting get a lift would receive a penile prosthetic to which skin from thigh or arms will be graphed onto it so that they would be able to have erections whereas the labia (lips) would be stretched and made into testicles and implants. Both genitalia can be re-routed to urinate respectively midway through surgery to avoid infections or obstructions.

Yes, but with current technology Phalloplasties aren't that great. There's two types you can get at the minute. The most common one you're able to pee naturally through, but the user cannot get hard even while using things like viagra. The second type allows for an erection (I'm unsure if you'll need viagra or not) but you're unable to urinate through it. Male to female surgical transitions are light years ahead of female to male, although the technology is still underdevelopment.

EDIT: I just realised this comment was written back in August. Goddamnit.
 

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Your typical difference is simply that traps and futanari are reversing different roles. The most common train of thought here is that sticking a donger on a girl will hit her with that constant fuck-lust of a man, maybe even worse, and it draws her out of that girlish sense of reservation. It makes her proactive and dominant. The common thoughts on traps are the reverse, that the effeminate figure and the way they're treated triggers a submissive reaction, that it awakens the same desire that went dormant in the futa.

but it's important that boundaries are observed. A boy flat-out becoming a girl or vice versa is a different thing (along similar lines, sure, but ultimately these are not about the loss of one but the awakening of the other, gender bending is all about the loss) and, to be quite frank, it's rare for a futa or a trap to gain a genuine sense of the opposite side - but I fault the typical writing for not exploring it all that far. What you really end up with in the typical trap scenario is the state of effeminateness, swooshy, what's often disparagingly called fairy or sissy behavior. And with futas it's a tomboyishness, disparagingly called dykey, boyish not as genuinely masculine but in such a way that would turn off a guy looking for that softer femininity that (again, frankly) he feels he can sink his hands into and take, throw around, control.

But they're far more versatile concepts than simply turning boys into sissy-things and girls into horny hump-crazy perverts. The best traps have an interesting mix of more genuine girlishness that doesn't diminish or belittle their boyishness and futa that really strive to answer the question of what a girl might do with a dick are so much more fun. At their full potential they're probably two of the most versatile archetypes.
 
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