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Masculine Mystique
01-04-2014, 11:17 AM
Post: #121
RE: Masculine Mystique
(01-04-2014 10:42 AM)FeiFongWong Wrote:  Incidentally, Barabbas is much more kind and capable an author than most (myself certainly included!), and makes great efforts whenever possible to accommodate them.
Oh yeah, you got that right. I was actually shocked with how kind and understanding he was as I blabbered on in this thread. His story proves he's an astounding writer but his apparent approach to his readers emphasizes on how really great he actually is. That's what I got from this thread, anyways. Awesome going, Barabbas. You truly have my respect.
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01-04-2014, 01:36 PM
Post: #122
RE: Masculine Mystique
(01-04-2014 03:14 AM)Barabbas Wrote:  Interestingly, though, I have found it's usually different the other way. I.e. there are very few subs who are interested in reading from the dom's perspective, but a great many doms seem to prefer reading from the sub's perspective. I think this is for a few different reasons:

1) If reading from the dom's perspective, the dom is being told what his motivations are, what he's thinking, etc., and many doms prefer to fill those things in for themselves. Not seeing the scene from the dom's perspective allows that.
2) Doms are generally very interested in what's going through the sub's head in a way that usually is not true the other way around.
3) Doms generally have a better understanding of the submissive perspective than subs do of the dominant perspective. Many subs find the dominant perspective entirely alien while doms generally have to understand what motivates submissives in order to be effective at, well, motivating them.

Anyway, it's just something I've noticed. I'm certainly not trying to argue that it is, or even should be, true of you specifically. Plus, I may be thinking more of stories written in a first person perspective from a female sub, rather than second person. That may change things up too radically.


1) Absolutely. When playing a game, I would like to be told what my motivations are as little as possible.
2) I am, in fact, very interested in understanding what's running through the subs head, just not in being forced into their perspective. When I read erotic fiction, I tend to best enjoy stories written in the third person as I can really enjoy the descriptions of an overwhelming desire to submit and the feeling of control without the onus of being forced to take on others motivations as my own. The problem is that in a game, third person perspective tends to ruin the sense of utility that (for me) is practically the entire reason for playing, which is why (point #1) I'm happiest with second person narratives that assume as little about my motivations as possible.
3) Never really considered this, but it does make some sense, and it's generally true of me aside from an inability to remove myself from the role I've been assigned.

Again, for some reason, I tend to shy away from stories written in the first person where I can't identify with the protagonist, so those are fairly dom-centric for me, as well. Perhaps I'm just the odd man out, and most people don't have the same problems with pronouns and perspectives.
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01-04-2014, 03:48 PM
Post: #123
RE: Masculine Mystique
You folks are all far too kind.

Futuredark: I can certainly understand your issue with pronouns and perspective. I personally am probably less prone to "immersion" than most people. If I'm playing a game or reading a story told in the second person, I pretty much always remain just as detached as if it were from any other perspective. I know I'm the unusual one in that regard, so I was probably assuming too much about your own reading habits.

In my experience, very little erotic BDSM fiction seems to be written from the perspective of the dominant. This could be for any number of reasons: 1) dominants are rarer than submissives (which they are, but not I think to the degree of the mismatch in erotic fiction), 2) dominants are less inclined to write erotic fiction than submissives, (I have no idea if this is true) or 3) because dominants, when they write, tend to do so from the submissive perspective (and, again, I have no idea if this is true). I've always assumed the third reason may be one of the main ones, but I couldn't honestly say.

Unfortunately though, it does mean that dom-centric stuff may be even rarer than what TheDarkMaster is looking for.
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01-04-2014, 03:55 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2014 04:04 PM by TheDarkMaster.)
Post: #124
RE: Masculine Mystique
Rape or be raped games like CoC and other switch games might be the best way to go if you're looking for dominant perspectives. Though switches seem to be in the minority, so that might explain why those games are less common. Out of curiosity, I'm going to start a pair of polls on Fen's forums and the TFgames ones. I have an account on there from awhile back. Why don't we find out what people prefer on each site?

CoC poll up: http://forum.fenoxo.com/thread-8429.html

TFGames poll up: http://www.tfgamessite.com/phpbb3/viewto...5&p=141821

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01-07-2014, 08:22 AM (This post was last modified: 01-07-2014 08:43 AM by Barabbas.)
Post: #125
RE: Masculine Mystique
Version 0.9.5 of the game has been released. All right, Lynx, try to play whatever choices you think you'd want to when playing the game for the first time (as a porn game, that is, rather than trying to role-play Parker as "yourself" or something like some people do). If you turn female now, I want to know about it and exactly what you did so I can fix it.
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01-08-2014, 07:56 AM
Post: #126
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Its true, Barabbas is full of awesome, but he won't write a Mrs. Anderson romance line which makes me full of sad. Tongue
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01-08-2014, 08:59 AM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2014 10:06 PM by treylot.)
Post: #127
RE: Masculine Mystique
(01-08-2014 07:56 AM)Narcissa Wrote:  Its true, Barabbas is full of awesome, but he won't write a Mrs. Anderson romance line which makes me full of sad. Tongue

Might just be me, but a Mrs. Anderson romance line sounds all kinds of disturbing. A scene that sexualises her feminising Parker sounds interesting though.

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01-08-2014, 04:34 PM
Post: #128
RE: Masculine Mystique
(01-08-2014 08:59 AM)treylot Wrote:  Might just be me, but a Mrs. Anderson romance line sounds all kind of disturbing. A scene that sexualises her feminising Parker sounds interesting though.

Agreed, though not too much. Nothing too drastic, but a bit of touching sounds fun.

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01-09-2014, 01:03 PM
Post: #129
RE: Masculine Mystique
Alright. Well, I went through the story "for the first time" and I didn't turn female even with lots of Sean and Billy sex as well as Wegman rape, but on my final results I had 5 Masculinity even with Emily's hypnotism session when it got from 0 (holy shit...) to 30. I thought you said earlier that your Masculinity shouldn't drop below 30(?) if you were hypnotized...? Should I go through the story again and write down all the choices I took in my playthrough?

I'll also experiment with different choices later and see where it takes me.
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01-09-2014, 02:01 PM
Post: #130
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(01-09-2014 01:03 PM)Lynx Wrote:  Alright. Well, I went through the story "for the first time" and I didn't turn female even with lots of Sean and Billy sex as well as Wegman rape, but on my final results I had 5 Masculinity even with Emily's hypnotism session when it got from 0 (holy shit...) to 30. I thought you said earlier that your Masculinity shouldn't drop below 30(?) if you were hypnotized...? Should I go through the story again and write down all the choices I took in my playthrough?

I'll also experiment with different choices later and see where it takes me.

No, I said the minimum was 5. When you see Emily on Thursday (I assume you chose to go on a date with either Sean or Billy on Wednesday night), she'll return your masculinity. If you had stayed home on Wednesday night, she'd have returned your masculinity already (provided you didn't agree to Mrs. Anderson's makeover on Wednesday and let her dress you up).

Thanks for trying it out! I really appreciate the feedback.
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